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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (70347)	12/30/1998 2:38:00 PM
From: John Koligman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Mary, He is talking hardware. However, MVS is also FAR more reliable than any Microsoft driven Intel based system. John

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (70347)	12/30/1998 3:18:00 PM
From: Jake0302	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

MTBF = Mean Times Between Failure I am pretty sure. Same term in the military.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (70347)	12/30/1998 3:30:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Respond to of 186894

Mary, >>>What are talking about here (10 - 20 years MTBF)?<<< What John said. Tony

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (70347)	12/31/1998 2:06:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

RE: What are we talking about 10-20 MTBF I think it is computer room false flooring. I am told that at the U of I some new supercomputer is resting on the same false flooring that my mates and I re-cemented to floor after the stanchions started to break loose only five years after they were glued in to support Illiac IV (alas.) B&G wanted $13,000 -- 6 of us did the job, knocked loose and sandblasted the stanchions (of course, if we couldn't knock them loose with hand sledges, we left them stand as sad monument of inferior QC standards), epoxied and leveled them and remounted the panels. Cost: $375 materials, $300 sandblast, borrowed level, $24 Papa Del's deep dish thick crust pizza X 4 (veggy), 2 cases Bud, $12, labor 2 days X 6 people -- must have been worth at least $1200 -- mostly contributed or comp (total $1911 or $711 cash.. I don't know for sure anyone fixed it between '77 and now. How firm a foundation!