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To: mark silvers who wrote (23743)	1/2/1999 5:04:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

Mark it looks like by now you would have discovered these people will not give you a sensible answer to anything. They will keep asking you ridiculous questions making all of your post defensive. The only answers I have ever gotten is either bible quotes that have no bearing on the question or ignoring completely as all have done today on my post #23729 or telling me I still need to find Jesus. I hardly think any of these people will answer your questions. There is another thread here with a variety of beliefs and open minds. It is "The feeling thread." There you will definitely find an answer tho not always the one you seek. GGGG

To: mark silvers who wrote (23743)	1/2/1999 9:25:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

><>...Mark, you have lost sight...><> once again of the issue at hand (your question dealing with the soul after the death of the flesh) and have turned a possible learning exercise into a worthless good-for-nothing debate. You stated this post. "Not agreeing with what is said, is not a back ache." That's right Mark, it isn't, and I never said it was. What I did said was that. If you are perplexed by a certain issue (in this case, the soul after the flesh dies)then that is a backache! I did not say ever once...that you had to agree with Christianity...never did I say that. I only pointed you where you might find your answer. You did not care to investigate...Period You also stated: "I am not compalining about christinity, as you suggest". I never suggested such a thing. You keep dancing around the real issue and the real question. And You insist on twisting and putting words in my mouth.These methods do not make for a very good learning enviroment. So be it Mark. I have in all honesty and in all diligence pointed you in the direction of having your question answered. Unless you do at least that much for yourself then no more good can be reached. I assumed as much, but I thought it at least worth a try for the sake of helping you out. If your mind is already made up as to the answer, then why ask the question? Except only to cause strife withinn yourself. As to your last statement: "the answers that you sugggest have been given to me, are not really answers. " it is not your place to judge god,", or " You just to have to believe", are not answers, they are statements of faith." I did not give you those answers or even suggest them. Someone else did. To the contrary Mark, I showed you where you could find the answers, but you were not of the mind to do your own work. Myself and many others here, Mark, have spoon-fed you for far too many posts. You have been treated with kid gloves and with much kindness. In my opinion it is time for you to take off the bib Mark, and begin to feed yourself from the word of God. Give Him the chance to minister to you in His way, and you will never again be hungry. A final thought. Your position is that no matter how violent or merciless or depraved, an individulal had been while living on earth, that when his flesh body dies and his spirit returns to God for judgment, God should just say, "ah, no matter, all is in the past. So what you raped and killed 10 little girls, you're here now in heaven and I'm the boss, and I will let you stay and give you eternal life in wonderous glory, because I am God, and I have the power to manipulate you into being good now" And God, you say should do this, just because He can! Even without a single word of repentance from the violent perpetrator? Without repentance Mark, there is no salvation! And Jesus's death and resurrection would be in vain. God will not be mocked. Mark you do not have to answer this post. Except you really choose to. But if you do, please stay on the subject at hand, and do not twist or change my words. That is all that I ask. My hands are clean. I have given you my all, and have honestly put you on the road, in previous posts, to finding your answer. And all with pure intentions. Do with it as you will. Sincerely, Shalom...><>