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To: Walter in HK who wrote (20356)1/5/1999 11:13:00 PM
From: Dave E.  Respond to of 77400
 
Walter,
Try: quote.yahoo.com

(Are you really in Hong Kong - my favorite Asian city!)

Dave E



To: Walter in HK who wrote (20356)1/6/1999 1:43:00 AM
From: jach  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
More tougher times ahead for CSCO. See related news from Network World. Looks like they're now catching on to the point made some time ago here at SI regarding intense competition and margin pressure for CSCO from GBit startups as well as switch-router startups, and the big boys LU and NT. All imo.

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Bring on the routers, I mean switches...

Network World, 01/04/99

The power of Layer 3
switches resides in their
ability to bring routing to
networks at faster speeds
and lower prices than
software-based routers.
Traditional software
routers, in fact, cost up to
10 times as much as Layer 3 switches and provide
one-tenth the performance. As such, Layer 3 switches
are pushing these routers to the edge of enterprise
networks to handle WAN access and aggregation
instead of LAN segmentation, as they've been doing
for 10 years.

But to say Layer 3 switches will replace routers or
render them obsolete would be inaccurate. Layer 3
switches supplant software-based routers. In fact,
Layer 3 switches are themselves routers -
inexpensive, fast, hardware-based routers.

The enterprise network is not the only place that will
feel Layer 3 switching's powerful impact. Cisco's
pocketbook will, as well.

At $650 per 100M bit/sec port, Layer 3 switches
threaten to squeeze the handsome profits Cisco
enjoys from sales of software-based routers for
collapsed enterprise backbones. Those devices bring
in about $5,000 per 100M bit/sec port.

Cisco is battling this profit crunch on two fronts. First,
it is selling more and more routers to service providers
that are more than willing and able to spend $5,000
per 100M bit/sec port. Second, Cisco is charging up
to $2,000 per 100M bit/sec port for its Layer 3
backbone switch, the Catalyst 8500.

Cisco attempts to rationalize the pricing of the
Catalyst 8500 by claiming it's much more than just a
Layer 3 switch or fast packet forwarder. Cisco calls
the product a "wire-speed switch router" and notes
that it includes multiprotocol support and a slew of
IOS software features usually found only on
traditional routers.

Perhaps that's so. But the true power of Layer 3
switching may be its ability to force Cisco - the
dominant supplier of network gear to enterprises - to
bring its prices in line with those charged by other
industry players.

"Will Layer 3 switching hurt Cisco revenue-wise? I
don't think so," says Craig Johnson, an analyst at The
PITA Group in Portland, Ore. "Cisco understands
very well the transitions that are taking place. It's just
a question of how Cisco manages its own transition."


Prediction: Cisco has been under fire for some of its
premium pricing practices, but by the end of 1999, it
may be forced into line by other Layer 3 switching
vendors. Lucent, Nortel and others will begin to
loosen Cisco's stronghold on the router/ switch
market.



To: Walter in HK who wrote (20356)1/6/1999 9:58:00 AM
From: Zoltan!  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
>>Zoltani, can you help a beginner: I can't get to the CISC predictions from your URL
Where to click ?


Actually, it ain't there yet. You can get all the "All-Star" picks if you order the transcript. There may be another option, as they seem about to offer the transcripts by email:
pbs.org