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To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (1815)1/7/1999 1:02:00 AM
From: lizard lick  Respond to of 41369
 
News on the clec front today. ESPI-espire communications. expanding to 25 cities and starting highspeed isp services for residential and business/. Mspg called to trade over a 100 in the nearterm, espi- will be in mindsprings markets in Atlanta amongst other areas,, Watch it head higher this month.

ESPI
e.spire Announces Plans to Expand Dial-Up Internet Service in 25
Markets and Will Offer High-Speed Dedicated "DSL" Access in New
York City, Atlanta and Florida - PR Newswire

Thursday January 7 12:34 AM ET

Mindspring Buys Netcom, Extending National Reach

By Eric Auchard

NEW YORK (Reuters) - MindSpring Enterprises Inc. (Nasdaq:MSPG - news) Wednesday
said it agreed to pay $245 million for the U.S. customer base of Netcom, a pioneering provider
of Internet services to consumers and small businesses.

The purchase of the customer base of Netcom, a unit of ICG Communications Inc.
(Nasdaq:ICGX - news), includes 400,000 individual Internet access accounts, propelling
MindSpring's total subscriber count over the 1 million mark.

The deal also extends the national reach of MindSpring, an Atlanta-based Internet service
provider whose existing members on concentrated in the U.S. Southeast, the West Coast
and New York, analysts said.

''This acquisition is consistent with our mission to become a major player in the
telecommunications industry of the future,'' Charles Brewer, MindSpring chairman and CEO,
said in a statement.

After the news of the deal, MindSpring stock surged $8.56 to close at $74.125 in active
Nasdaq trading Wednesday.

The additional customers put MindSpring neck and neck in a competition for second-place in
terms of total Internet subscribers, against AT&T Corp. (NYSE:T - news)'s WorldNet,
EarthLink and Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news)'s MSN Internet services.

''We believe this acquisition, when completed, will put MindSpring over the 1 million dial-up
subscriber mark,'' Brewer said.

America Online Inc. (NYSE:AOL - news) dwarfs all other Internet service providers, with more
than 15 million members of its flagship AOL consumer and small-business service, and
another 2 million at its CompuServe service aimed at professional users.

Terms of the deal call for MindSpring to pay ICG Communications about $245 million,
including $215 million in cash and $30 million in MindSpring stock.

In addition to the 400,000 individual accounts, MindSpring will receive 3,000 dedicated Internet
access accounts, typically used by small businesses, and 18,000 accounts where
MindSpring would manage customer Web sites.

The Netcom deal follows a similar deal in which MindSpring paid America Online $35 to $45
million to acquire 180,000 members of AOL's SpryNet Internet service in October.

MindSpring's acquisition spree has been fueled by the sixfold increase in the price of its stock
in the past year, allowing its stock to serve as currency for funding such deals.

ICG, a supplier of local phone services and Internet links, will retain the underlying network
''backbone'' equipment and supply MindSpring with wholesale Internet access services under
a separate, long-term network services deal.

MindSpring also acquires all U.S. rights held by ICG Communications to the ''Netcom'' name,
as well as select software and equipment. The Netcom operations in Canada and Britain are
not included in deal, the two companies said.

MindSpring said it expected the deal to be completed later in the first quarter, subject to
certain customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.

ING Baring Furman Selz brokerage analyst Frederick said he expected the transaction to add
to MindSpring earnings as soon as the deal closes.

''There's every reason to believe that this stock will be trading north of $100 within the not-too
distant future,'' he said. The analyst's long-term stock price target for MindSpring is $111,
excluding the positive effects of the Netcom deal.



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (1815)1/7/1999 8:10:00 AM
From: Voltaire  Respond to of 41369
 
I have always tried to tell it like it is even if it goes against my positions and I have to say that your assessment of the thread and AOL is right on. You know by my posting, I pretty well do everything by observation of movement, psychology, the big picture and more than anything feel. It works for me but would not suggest it for anyone else. Respect your opinion.

Voltaire



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (1815)1/7/1999 9:06:00 AM
From: RocketMan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 41369
 
If what I see on this thread is a microcosm of AOL investors, that is a frightening picture.

For better or worse, this thread is far from a microcosm of AOL investors. AOL is 2/3 owned by institutions, and that ratio is growing. The typical individual investing through institutions, particulary index investors, is someone building a retirement nest egg through a 401k. Besides institutions, some of the biggest holders are employees who own stock options. And they are more or less captured investors, since they can only see at certain times. So I would not worry about anything said on this thread, which is much more mature and enjoyable than many of the SI threads I have been on.

Yes, I believe that AOL is an excellent company, but my biggest cause of concern is the fact that so few people on this thread are able (or interested enough) to articulate what will make AOL grow and continue to grow for the foreseeable future.

FWIW, let me give that a shot.

1. AOL is the most popular choice among new internet users. It will continue to be that until something better comes along. It has a reputation for simplicity, for friendliness, and for a large audience base. There are currently around 15M subscribers, which represents about half of all ISP subscribers. If they keep that market share, and assuming that internet users will continue to grow at 100% per year, that makes for another 10-15M per year for at least another 2-3 years, which would make the total ISP population around 120-150M, and AOL's 60-90M. That means at least 60M x $22 = $660M in monthly revenues in two years.

2. Brand loyalty. Few AOL members leave, because they establish an email address, an online presence, and are comfortable with knowing how to get around. Sort of like SI users, as much as I would like to leave, I keep coming back :-)

3. AOL is expanding internationally, so after the US population subscriber growth flattens out, the international population should be picking up. Of course, the competitive environment there is much different, and it remains to be seen whether AOL can truly penetrate there, but again until someone better comes along, my bet is on AOL.

4. E-commerce is growing at a very rapid rate, and AOL is becoming the mall of e-commerce. Even companies like Amazon have partnerships with AOL, because you can not be an e-commerce company and ignore 15M AOL eyeballs, 10M Netscape eyeballs, 25M ICQ eyeballs, and 2 or 3 Comupserve eyeballs (the rest are too nerdy to pay attention, just kidding). And AOL is being paid high rent by these companies to reside on AOL.

5. R&D is fairly vigorous, and the Sun partnership has much potential with regard to a Java-based AOL client, which should keep AOL at the forefront.

6. Broadband will be coming. This is their biggest weakness right now, which is why I think ATHM is their biggest competitor. But the rumours are that a cable deal might be announced within a couple of months. DSL deals are already made, and only await popular acceptance of DSL and the telcos getting off their butt. That will open the door, if they choose, for VoIP, video conferencing, AOL-TV, and other convergence technologies.

This is not an exhaustive list, nor is it the best list, but it is why I think AOL is the place to be right now. Will this be the case 3 months, 6 months, or a year from now? I think so, but we have to re-evaluate not only AOL, but also the competition.

Good luck with your investments.




To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (1815)1/7/1999 10:16:00 AM
From: Out_of_the_Trap  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 41369
 
Hey Chuzz :).... I've been watching this thread since it started, sometimes every 2 min. Unless I missed something, what else about aol could have been said that YOU and others haven't said? Things are being added as we move up the road.... and we are moving up the road on this isssue.

FWIW... I feel as strongly about AOL as I did in 1995 when I purchased my first msft. I expect a BETTER return(over the same period or longer) becuase they are, in so many words, 'thee portal company'.

Thanks for all your great posts and discussions. I'd rather be spared some of the nonsense like we had yesterday about FREE stuff, but it's for me to weed through all the fluff.

TTFN
PAS



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (1815)1/10/1999 5:43:00 PM
From: jhg_in_kc  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 41369
 
Chuzzlewit, AOL after its merger with NSCP and its alliance with Sun is more than just a portal. It is the one entity on the Web that can make a complete linkage between businesses and e-commerce customers. It can go to Macy's and sell not only the hardware and the software (via Sun) to set up an on line store but also gurantee 60 million plus customers for that store.
If Sun's Java software becomes as popular and useful as the company's chairman believes it will, then Aol can deliver Web top windows for the PC, the software coming from the internet, making the installation of MSFT Windows unnecessary for browsing and shopping the Web.
Only Yahoo has similar customer loyalty to AOL. When the internet industry "shakes out" AOL and YHOO will be the NBC and CBS of the new media. I don't know who the ABC will be just yet or even if there will be one.
Are you seriously considering selling AOL? What are your major concerns. Give this thread a chance to post more information to address them. I have a ton of articles on AOL tht i have clipped since its merger with NSCP. I will post some when I get some time.
jhg



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (1815)1/11/1999 2:22:00 AM
From: Jon Stept  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 41369
 
Hi Chuzzlewit, RE: AOL growth.

I read your post on the AOL thread regarding AOL growth. I just invested a portion of my portfolio in AOL, and I was not as concerned about growth as you when I invested, although I had many other considerations which convinced me to buy.

In my opinion, the one main reason that will continue to propel their growth is the same one that propels Wal-Mart- their customer base. AOL has 12 million names (I think that is the right number) and they know what these people have bought and what they like to discuss and when they can discuss it. It is like the Wal-Mart customer base strategy on steroids. Because of this, advertisers will increasingly put more and more ads on their site because the ads are more effective than the scatter shot ads you see on TV, print and billboards. In fact, they are better than ads, because one click on an AOL ad and the product can be purchased. In my opinion, AOL is at the very start of their advertising revenue. I expect in about 5 years, AOL will not charge anybody for access, because advertising revenue will be so great. Also, manufacturers will be driven to sell their goods via the internet and AOL too because it will reduce their costs and make them more competitive... just look at Dell as an example.

This is all just my opinion and not a recommendation to buy or sell.

Jon :)