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To: wily who wrote (4895)	1/10/1999 10:14:00 PM
From: d. alexander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

Probably there are some on the thread who are using an overclocked celeron, to hear that side of it- as you probably have. My mind, at this point, is slightly boggled. Like, whaa.. no entity with formal constraints would use them, so the bandits can revel & Intel is an unusual large corporation to have figured all that out, maybe. Anyway I'm pleased. At this point, I do have limited experience ordering online. So I can pass along that it takes a long time on hold to reach TC at the 800# - giving plenty of time to review choices. They are open weekends. And when you do, you may reach someone not too bright or you may get someone very helpful. And, gradually, with a little help from friends, you (hopefully) get it together. d.alexander

To: wily who wrote (4895)	1/10/1999 10:32:00 PM
From: Dave Hanson	Respond to of 14778

"I'm still curious whether there are any real performance advantages of the "genuine" PII over the overclocked Celeron" Asked and answered, Wily <g> Somewhere way back I cited the very helpful benchmarks at Tom's Hardware on this. His relatively thorough benching suggests that the OC'd 300a actually performs a hair better than a PII 450 in most apps. This makes sense, because the processor cores are identical. Only differnce is that PII has 512 K L2 cache running at 1/2 CPU speed, and these celerons have 128 K L2 cache running at full CPU speed. Unless your apps shove big chunks into the cache (most of ours won't), the fast speed more than offsets the smaller l2 cache.