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To: greenspirit who wrote (16420)	1/11/1999 2:30:00 AM
From: jpmac	Respond to of 71178

Wonderful post, Michael. Maybe along with doing something about the grading system we could do something about how teachers are perceived, honored, and reimbursed. Money isn't everything, it may be nothing, but a decent wage is rather nice to take home. As important as other fields of endeavor are, it still amazes, though, that those that teach us and those that protect us are treated at times as if they should do it simply out of the kindness of their hearts for a pitance in return, as if that is further proof of their goodness. Their is no art greater than that of teaching, and a good one deserves as high a place of honor as our society can bestow.

To: greenspirit who wrote (16420)	1/11/1999 11:22:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Where I went to school we were not graded on a curve. Sometimes the whole class did great. Sometimes we all suuuucked. When I went to college, I found out about grading on a curve. Let's say I was taken aback. (Then I totally dug it - because it stacked the deck in my favor.) The practice strikes me as corrupt - there is no way to REALLY tell the masters from the wannabees. I have mixed feelings about the SAT. On the one hand - it's not a curve. Your score reflects how much you were able to answer correctly. (Not how much you know. I talked to a lot of folks who knew the material but choked in the test hall. This is part of it: performance under pressure. Real life, baby.) On the other hand - the test can be tweaked without cheating. I took the PSAT "cold" and I stunk. I had never seen the format before. So for the SAT I bought one of those thick paperback "SAT Prep" guides and for a week I LIVED it. I became familiar with the format. I did quite well in the SAT - once I knew the peculiar idiom or syntax of the test. I favor grades given on percent scored. I do not like "correcting" for how the group did. THe relative scores already will tell you who's best. But the absolute score will contain a piece of info lost on a curve. Who is actually good.