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To: greenspirit who wrote (16444)	1/12/1999 4:29:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Michael, I actually agree with both of you, as unlikely as that sounds. Ideally, grading and memorization shouldn't be absolutely necessary, but that will be hard to achieve on a widespread basis. Joey, who is 8, goes to a school where there are no conventional grades beyond 4th grade, just a detailed feedback report from parents to teachers. After that there are grades, mainly because students who transfer out need them. Teaching of subjects where memorization is required, like times tables and spelling, rely heavily on computers. But this is in a private school with a student/faculty ratio of 6:1, costing upwards of 5K a year. How can this be reasonably done in public schools? Steve

To: greenspirit who wrote (16444)	1/13/1999 10:40:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 71178

>Teaching and learning is a complex area of discovery,< Yes. I do not mean to downplay that at all. About rote memorization - it's a skill or ability like any other. Some people don't need to do much of it because they are lucky enough to "get it" quickly. Others need to fight hard to get and retain the same knowledge. For some jobs, especially "people" jobs, a large, exact factual body of knowledge is not so important whereas "unteachables" like an intuition for the customer are everything. But my competence lies in the science/engineering direction. When you're on sea duty - I'll bet you get a warm feeling knowing the guys in the engineering compartment know their **** by heart and don't have to look it up! Not that "looking it up" is bad. It's a whole 'nother skill. Using a library well isn't easy, and the 'Net isn't up to the task at current. A lot of specialized or valuable knowledge isn't accessible through Infoseek. But I'm a little leery of carrying your skills on a disk - unless the disk is absolutely guaranteed not to crash. >Why do we as humans start out happy and joyful to learn and at some point feel it's a burden?< I have been about this happy as long as I can remember - and I have reliable memories back to the Helenator's current age (about 1). (which means I have to get off this box and play with her!) Sure, school was stressful, but I don't think that my baic curiosity/willingness to read up on something was ruined or hurt. I suspect that for those folks who DO get the joy of learning messed up - there is probably more to it than meets the eye. Therapy stuff.