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To: gregor who wrote (1119)	1/13/1999 11:04:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 14396

Now that I look deeper everywhere, I see that the code of the Bible is indeed that. No exact blueprints to follow, (ONLY THE TEN COMMANDMENTS AND THE WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST, PERIOD, ARE OUR ONLY EXACT BLUEPRINTS I BELIEVE) except that usually the person we are reaading about RARELY ever actually was a totally reformed out of control worldly sinner, such as certainly came later in huge droves. But all I notice is they appear telling the WICKED KINGS OF ISREAL they are going to be found crawling around in the field crazy, or better yet, they are going to die. Period. Then the king listened, or the whole country suffered horribly, and usually the Bible seems to speak of the entire NATION of Isreal during those times being no better than a Marilyn Manson retreat in the Bahamas. So, it appears to me on the surface of the story that there were no long fasts and prayers before such pronouncments, and they seemed to be made more on total sense of the matter: This is horrible, God hates horrible things, I think you should leave the earth so we can clean it up. Now, again, that would be more along the lines of ancient Isrealite law, which simply, after three discussions of the matter, took the severe offender outside the walls of the camp, and even with disobedient teen-age boys, terminated them on the spot. I once worked with an avowed God hating aethiest, and was bad mouthing Jesus in a very actually realistic way. He was just saying he could never follow Jesus because Jesus was so namby pamby, in his eyes. Then I said, "AH! But Jesus was also the Father, and camae from the Father. The Father handled things differently..." and I recited some know old testament facts. David's eye's literally lit up, he got a huge smile on his face as at that moment I know there was some sort of definite breakthrough in his mind and he said loudly, "Now that's a Guy I can relate to!" (God the Father of Jesus Christ). I actually gawfawed at the insanity of our discussion and went back to work, and all I know is that after some time and some changes, David proudly announced to me that he and his wife had gone to church, and he seemed rather pleased that I knew. I know it was not a charismatic church, and probably Episcopalean, which has always appealed to the deep intellectuals among us, but church. Another young and very aethiestic little red haired Irisih lawyer who was there before him is now a dedicated lay preaacher at the Episcopal church, and this one I know, and it truly is very, very unworldly, although certainly not a Jesus Freak church. I think the lessons of the old testament are exactly where even Jesus told us to look for boldness, and those that did got rather bold. Onward. Onward...As you and Shalom and myselfl, and others of course, wait for the Spirit of Elijah to once again come through, we can see many hundreds of thousands of people, places and things that "need addressing". I must refrain from attempting to do exactly that. :) Amen?