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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (27772)	1/13/1999 7:57:00 PM
From: JBL	Respond to of 67261

Michelle, I agree that Clinton is one of the most talented politicians in modern history, and that many of his policies were the right sort of compromise that were needed between the two parties. What I cannot stomach however, is his using his popularity with the public and the media to shield himself from crimes. Some people, like me, are convinced that Clinton is a criminal. Many people, like you, believe that we are right wing extremist nuts. Only facts will put all these issues to rest, and that's why we need to have witnesses at this trial, so that right wing extremists like me can be proved wrong or right.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (27772)	1/13/1999 8:06:00 PM
From: alan w	Respond to of 67261

OK, I guess that qualifies. I am looking for a link on the Republican impressive comeback. I don't want to type it all from memory. Back to searching alan w

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (27772)	1/13/1999 8:12:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 67261

<<that were good that Bushes congress put forth (such as, say gun control, Brady Bill etc) he vetoed. >> In Illinois we have the Brady Bill plus. Have had it for a long time. Funny how old Jim is in a wheel chair for the anti gun votes and riding a horse every other day like the Illinois DOC shows him. Actually Bush stopped the import of AK 47's which turned the NRA against him. Bentsen, under Clinton allowed 300,000 AKs to be imported. That was after the massacre of the children by an AK in California.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (27772)	1/13/1999 8:12:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Id like to see Lott or DeLay as president - what a joke! Those 2 guys arent smart enough to drive a tractor. Oh but we can be sure they arent adulterers right? hallelujah for that. Well, I might at least consider taking a bet with regard to Lott that he may not be an adulterer! But DeLay? No way! Definitely not! Guy looks and behaves too uncouth. Not hard to imagine him screwing around. Besides, Flynt is digging into his past. Keep them fingers crossed!

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (27772)	1/13/1999 9:15:00 PM
From: alan w	Respond to of 67261

Sorry I couldn't find the link. Bills used to be introduced, assigned numbers, and labeled. They were then assigned to the appropriate committees. The Speaker could, at that time, set a time limit on the committee to act on that bill. Failure to act on the bill was equivalent to killing it. Representative Jim Inhofe, in order to stop insurance premiums from killing the small airplane industry, was authoring legislation to keep people from suing these companies for crash injuries caused by after market alterations. His bill went to committee. They, of course, tabled it. At the time, the Democrat controlled Congress, were siding with insurance companies. Aircraft owners could remove seat belts, reverse back seats etc.. and manufacturers were still being held liable for injuries. Now the only way to get a bill out of committee was and still is was to file a discharge petition. At that time however, names on a discharge petition were kept secret by house rules. Inhofe's solution: Introduce a bill that said "All names on a discharge petition shall be made public. Dem leaders sent that bill to committee where it was also tabled. House rules at that time said discharge petition signers would not be revealed. What this meant was Representatives could publicly support a bill while it languished in committee with no hope of getting it out. They would even co-sponsor it, knowing full well it would never make it out of committee. The very height of hypocrisy. Inhofe countered with "OK, if you won't let me reveal the names of the people who sign the discharge petition, I'll disclose the names of the people who haven't signed it. Several Democrats who had promised Inhofe they would sign the bill only to be strongarmed by Democratic leadership to oppose Inhofe, came back to his side(including one Kansas democrat, Wichita Kansas being the home of Cessna, Piper or Beech, I forget which). Democratic leaders were strongly opposed to this bill. But since there was no house rule preventing Inhofe from revealing non signers, he quickly had enough votes to get the bill out of committee. Result: The discharge petition bill and the aircraft legislation were passed. No surprise, the discharge petition bill, which was basically a sunshine law, passed almost unanimously. No more secret maneuvering. It utterly deflated the Democratic Leadership. They were used to telling their constituents anything they wanted and then catering to special interest groups with their actions. And that is the story of one Republican Senator, Jim Inhofe, that to me is very impressive. The little guy wins one. He also enabled the minority in ANY House of Representatives to have some recourse. For those that didn't watch C-Span prior to 93, the arrogant actions of the Republican majority in the House today pales to the arrogance of the then controlling Democrats. If I could have crawled through my television set and gotten hold of Jack Brooks Dem from Texas, in 1992, I might be writing this from prison. Arrogance personified. Sorry for the length. This was taken from memory and paraphrased. alan w ps Michelle, sorry but Inhofe is probably not on top of your list, but you didn't say you had to like him.