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Gold/Mining/Energy : Yogen Fruz IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIVE -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: the Chief who wrote (991)	1/13/1999 9:42:00 PM
From: Ward Nicholson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2453

Chief: I did notice that. Then again he's from the "real investor" camp, so what the hell do I know? I think it totally glossed over this guy that I'm actually looking to go long...just waiting for the right time. I don't think he follows the technicals at all. This seems to be a thread dominated by pure-fundamentalists (except for Stocker). WN

To: the Chief who wrote (991)	1/14/1999 2:31:00 AM
From: AGORA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2453

NOW THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO LOOK BAD Chief, Ward and gang. We have no need to impress "pro's" like you at SI. The fact that we are personally invited by YF to attend national teleconferences with analysts and brokers is proof enough that you guys have no clue as to what you are talking about. Next time you try and take a shot at someone, do just a "little" research and avoid embarassment. A quick scan of our YF posts would have brought you across the following: siliconinvestor.com Ward, how do you feel being called a fool for the second day in a row? Chief, this was your first but keep up posts like your last one and you will lose all credibility...Fool. If you need to know who we are, take a look at Valu-net, Sideware Systems, King Communications and Mirandor Explorations. We represent each one of them with respect to Internet Investor Relations. Go and read the press releases announcing our appointment for each company. Then go read the press releases about what each company has achieved in 1998...little things like deals with IBM, SAIC Corp, Kinross Gold and mergers/move to US exchanges. We'll let you figure out who has done what. The company, AGORA Internet Relations Corp., was born out of our very successful e-mail newsletter, The AGORA Wire. Our subscribers are real, they pay a $50/month fee and they number in the triple digits. All said and done, just a little lunch money. Perhaps it does not "impress" you but it is good enough to get personal interviews with the Serruya's. What do you know, we were even invited to participate in their last analysts conference. It felt so good the first time, we'll reference it again: siliconinvestor.com Too bad you didn't do a little research before making such a stupid comment. A simple search of our last 50 posts would have made this really obvious. By the way, with respect to holding onto "losers" - glad you brought it up. Today was a classic example of why we hold onto WINNERS that may be going through a tough period. Specifically, VNE.ASE positions at $1.00, 1.10 and 1.25 have now all turn profitable with a close of $1.62. Once we update our web site, this will make our 1998 record about 32-8 or a success rate of 80%. agoracorp.com Once our 2 YF positions recover, that percentage will go to approximately 85% for all of our 1998 investments. Of course, you will see it as "holding onto a loser" but the rest of us are mature enough to admit we believed in this investment at higher levels and willing to wait out a slow period. There is no shame in holding onto good investments and even adding positions at lower levels. It's called "investing". The fact that we post it on the web for all our new subscribers to see only adds that much more credibility. Perhaps we'll see you in the business someday? Until then, do just a little fact finding before commenting on other people..next time you won't look so bad. AGORA

To: the Chief who wrote (991)	1/14/1999 7:56:00 AM
From: Ed Mitukiewicz	Respond to of 2453

To Chief and all: I've been a subscriber to the Agora Wire almost since its inception (over a year now) and have profited from their advice and recommendations. Their strategy is to go after reasonable profits (as opposed to hoping for home runs) within a short holding period. Since predicting exact lows and highs is impossible purchasing core positions and trade positions makes a lot of sense. Selling a losing position doesn't make sense if the reasons for purchasing the stock are still there. I sent Agora an email on Nov 26,1998 which I cut and pasted below. Since that time I've again had a profitable trade on Yogen Fruz following their advice. If anyone doesn't believe these trades I'd be happy to fax you the buy and sell confirmations as proof. My hope is that we can stop all the mud-slinging and get back to making money. Best regards, Ed My email to Agora: Hi George, just thought I'd drop you a line to let you know your strategy can work very well in these markets. In the past few weeks I have: Bought 300 shares of ATY at 11.15 and sold at 14.10 Bought 1000 shares of YF.A at 4.90 and sold at 5.40 Bought 500 shares of ATA(one you don't follow but I have for years) at 15.50 and sold at 19.80. Thanks for the advice, regards, Ed