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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (28086)1/14/1999 1:15:00 AM
From: Father Terrence  Respond to of 108807
 
Bob:

You cannot compare slavery to abortion.

With slavery the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence was undermined because it denied rights to a whole people that they automatically had by nature of their existence. You are correct, however, that the main issues of the Civil War did not include slavery. That was more of a peripheral issue at the time. And also used as an excuse to cover somewhat shoddily the power play by the federalists.

In the case of abortion, the individual woman's rights would be violated if the government told her what she could do with her own body -- her own life. In effect, she would become a slave.

FT



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (28086)1/14/1999 1:57:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Civil War
was not fought to free any slaves. It was fought to prevent the southern
states from seceding from the union.

Sorry. The Civil War was fought after Southerners had already seceded and formed a new government. The Civil War was fought to repress and punish the South for seceding, to reduce them to subservience, and to bring them back into the union as "reconstructed" Republican states controlled by freedmen, carpetbaggers, and scalawags. The white gentry were largely denied the vote because most had taken oaths to the confederacy. Secession was one of the purest, most ideological, suicidal and stupid things a class could have done. Secession was very popular, and no one was able to explain how the South could be expected to win. This violated the cardinal rule of strategy: 1. First plan, then fight.