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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (46276)1/16/1999 9:31:00 AM
From: TGPTNDR  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571399
 
Cirruslvr - Thanks for the PIII review and commentary!

Isn't it scary how little INTC has been able to improve the Pentium Pro? Looks like AMD may have TWO chips faster than anything INTC has by year end!

tgptndr



To: Cirruslvr who wrote (46276)1/16/1999 11:15:00 AM
From: Brian Hutcheson  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1571399
 
firingsquad.com
Cirruslvr ,The final verdict says 10% faster than the top PII but they feel the clock speed will ramp up quickly .
I believe that the PII architecture must be close to its highest clock speed , what do you think ?
Brian



To: Cirruslvr who wrote (46276)1/17/1999 12:48:00 AM
From: Petz  Respond to of 1571399
 
Cirruslvr, good analysis, K6-3-450 definitely faster than P3-450. It was obvious the reviewer was trying to hype the advantages of Katmai -- he got real excited that a CPU only benchmark showed a 5% improvement of the PIII vs the PII. Also, the factoid that he used 128M RAM wasn't even listed in his system description.

In fact, judging from the Business Winstone '99 results:
K6-3-450 w/64M RAM is 9.2% faster than P2-450, but,
Pentium III-500 w/128M RAM is only 4.5% faster than Pent II-500,

In fact, by comparing Anand's and firingsquads.com's benchmarks we can determine that

The K6-3-450 will be FASTER than the Pentium III-500

From Anand's benchmarks, a K6-3-450 is 9.2% faster than a Pentium II-450.

From firingsquad.com, a Pentium III-500 is only 6.4% faster than a Pentium II-450.

The 9.2% difference in the Anand benchmark would be larger if he had used 128M RAM like firingsquad, since there is a lot more I/O wait time with 64M. OTOH, the 9.2% difference shrinks by 2-3%, with a more normal 1M L2 cache although I can't find the exact number because Anand's site is down.

One final thing I noted -- the compression of scores at 500 MHz and the great improvement in Pentium III scores when the memory bus is "overclocked" by 12% (112 MHZ clock * 5) shows that main memory speed is very significant to the Intel architecture above CPU speeds of 400 MHz. If Intel can implement the 133 MHz bus before AMD comes out with the K7, they will gain the lead again.

Petz