To: paulmcg0 who wrote (36318 ) 1/17/1999 5:19:00 AM From: Kurt_Ruckus Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50264
I was trying to make a point that things aren't always what they seem... Paul, that is very true.. things aren't always what they seem... or at least the perception of reality can vary vastly between cultures or even individuals....Geertz wrote extensively on cultures realities. I'd love to quote some of his thoughts, but it's been a very long time since I read his work.. but I do have some examples. The Yanamamo Indians for instance have no concept of time... the anthropologists that come to study them are viewed as lesser beings, as some type of animals. So these educated individuals are deemed beneath them because they don't live by the rules of life that the Yanamamo do. Are the Yanamamo stupid for thinking that? I don't think so, they just are living within their perceived reality. If someone came along to try and 'enlighten' them to the 'truth', are they going to succeed? Would that be a good thing? Is the enlighteners 'truth' more correct than his enlightenees? What if it's a Christian missionary exposing them to his truth? Why am I bringing this up? If it's not already clear, it's because you seem to be on your own mission of salvation for us heathen followers of DGIV. Personally I find this mission amusing as well as your efforts at shock value (as I do some people taking your bait). Do you actually feel you can succeed with your approach though? Your superior attitude and antagonism in your approach does little to endear anyone to your thoughts (even the ones that are worth considering). Or maybe you are fully aware of this and dissuading us of our devotion to this stock was not your intent at all. If that isn't the case, you might review your strategy. I submit to you this excerpt (from one of <a href="http://www.suck.com/daily/99/01/11/">Suck</a>'s more thought provoking articles lately) from something a military analyst wrote in August of 1966 about the Vietnam War. Initial plans and assessments for the ROLLING THUNDER program tended to overestimate the persuasive and disruptive effects of the U.S. air strikes and, correspondingly, to underestimate the tenacity and recuperative abilities of the North Vietnamese. This tendency, in turn, appears to reflect a general failure to appreciate the fact, well-documented in the historical and social scientific literature, that a direct, frontal attack on a society tends to strengthen the social fabric of the nation, to increase popular support of the existing government, to improve the determination of both the leadership and the populace to fight back, to induce a variety of protective measures that reduce the society's vulnerability to future attack, and to develop an increased capacity for quick repair and restoration of essential functions. What you (and other bashers) have succeeded in doing is uniting a group of individuals with a rather weak common bond (a stock they all happen to own)into a very strong bond of shared research and resource sharing and a sense of community. Many of us already felt like a family before the bashers came along, but I can say that the efforts of the bashers has only strengthened the resolve of the DGIV 'family'. Anyway, I could go on, but it's late and I think I've made my point and said enough. Good night. Kurt