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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (1366)	1/18/1999 10:46:00 AM
From: Clarksterh	Respond to of 34857

Tero - OT I'll give it eight points on the James Carville scale. How embarrassing that someone outside the US knows who he is and what he does. The danger of being in the spotlight is that all of your nose-pickers show up in the light. Clark

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (1366)	1/18/1999 12:54:00 PM
From: DaveMG	Respond to of 34857

I'll spin that a little and say that at this point it's irrelevant exactly what kind of license one applies for, WCDMA/CDMA2000/&^*^CDMA. What's important is that one gets the spectrum no? Is VOD/ATI tied to a chiprate of 3.8x if they apply for the WCDMA license? I'd think they'd be pretty interested in a unified standard, it would make life easier for them, they'd benefit from greater economies of scale, they could buy once everywhere. I suppose you still believe WCDMA will be a cheaper upgrade than a unified standard...Dave

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (1366)	1/18/1999 1:26:00 PM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

To Tero: While your paen's to GSM entertaining up to a point, now that you are a "columnist" in the US, would some slight balance and perspective be useful, or were you hired as a columnist to be a promoter of Ericsson (and Nokia) - not to give balanced and objective analysis on wireless? (At least a Nokia advocate can make a case with a straight face - but Ericsson?) :-) Cheers. Best regards. Chaz

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (1366)	1/18/1999 2:36:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Okay, I did emphasize the cdmaOne connection with Vodafone and the Q! ownership they obtained in the deal might barely have entered their consciousness, being only about 2% of the stock. But the main point is, they won't benefit from a chip rate which damages their cdmaOne base. By choosing Ericy chip rate, their GSM network won't benefit, but their cdmaOne will be harmed. Did you see the snake oil here [Q revenue growth] Message 7336606 Nokia's graph must be equally as impressive. Nokia will benefit from lowest cost networks so more consumers can afford handsets, Nokia's strength. To make inefficient chip rate networks and massive upgrading of cdmaOne necessary instead of backward compatible seems like the reasoning you used in which Nokia deliberately makes rotten cdmaOne handsets so that their GSM can remain looking good. Maybe that's the Russian/socialist influence - produce rotten stuff to get back at the boss and the system. They produced a lot of it! And took some of my precious Globalstar satellites with one of their rockets. As pointed out, you have to bid for spectrum to get it. In the absence of 3G agreement from QUALCOMM, the VW40 in Finland is meaningless. Suppose Ericy does go ahead and steal QUALCOMM's property, operators would be crazy to pay for the equipment. Suppose Ericy manfully signs agreements to take responsibility for any litigation, damages or other imposts in an effort to persuade customers to install their "W-CDMA". That would make Texaco's cavalier agreement to handle legal repercussions in the breaching of agreement between Getty and Pennzoil look like a Sunday picnic. Texaco lost multibillions. In this instance, it's hagfish handlin' not snakehandlin'. Snakes are very unslimy creatures and handle quite easily. Maurice PS: Are you a 10 clicking "columnist" yet? Or still a 1?