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To: Gerald Walls who wrote (892)1/21/1999 2:01:00 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 2617
 
Remember, never let them see ya comin.

TOm Watson tosiwme.



To: Gerald Walls who wrote (892)1/21/1999 6:29:00 AM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 2617
 
Things don't move that slow. But the reality is this. I loaded down two free browsers recently. (at least Lynx works). The Amaya browser is really an XML editor that MS will not sell you but it would not save links, which everyone does badly now anyway and this is a major factor holding back networking. Amaya would not show you the source code of the file completely, even if it displayed text. If it loaded the file as an HTM file it would not display the code at all natively.
It was Wysiwig. On top of that it would not scroll sideways what text it would display. When you scrolled the screen with background images it flashed and jerked. IF you browsed with it and tried to enter text on a form it was hit or miss. Sometimes buttons did not work. (windows version) Sometimes the X version would not see the directory properly in Linux. When it did not like some entry it would disappear entirely. At least on reloading it would take you to debug and try better than any windows app to diagnose the internal problem.

Bottom line. Very limited use. Not a browser. Hate to use it for its stated use which is updating remote HTML or XML files in WYSYWIG mode.

It could be used for building XML pages off line though. I saw limited text formatting as in centering etc...(they didn't have it)

Bottom, bottom line. Lots of code to lift to build a proper file oriented browser. Buy this I mean something that can make a seamless directory and indexing heirarchical/alpha out of your disk and the public files you browse with an offline/online pointer or division system. Right now my favourite/bookmark file is a spagetti mess that cannot be sorted categorized or indexed without much pain and time.

What would this do? Well put IE and Newtscrape where they belong, in the trash bin. 12 megs of code and communicator 4.5 ot 4.7 cannot even import an ascii text file of addresses. This is not useful code.
What are we? Sheep to be flucked?

What it would also do is improve net efficiency. If people can idea browse their database of historical sites it would raise contact consciousness. That is what SI does. It builds relationships through a database of commentary that has a familiar and easy structure. It this the case with your website bookmark file. Is this browsing to look at 2000 long list of cryptic titles? I think the organization of disks and the net and sites needs more than a square box that says search

mailto:echarter@vianet.on.ca

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To: Gerald Walls who wrote (892)1/21/1999 6:39:00 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2617
 
I could not find the Red Hat article in this maze. But I did find this about MS.

From the reports on the MS case by the DOJ..

"But Schmalensee said that he did not know how much Microsoft made from the operating system compared to its other products because the company uses a primitive accounting system.

"They record operating system sales by hand on a piece of paper," he said, adding its "internal accounting systems do not always rise to the level of sophistication one would expect."

Microsoft charged nothing for Internet Explorer and in fact paid Internet Service Providers and others in an effort to promote the product.

Schmalensee said Internet Explorer had pulled ahead of Netscape's browser because it was a superior product, and cited a compendium of reviews to prove his point. Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates made similar statements before a U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last March.

Boies then showed Schmalensee the May internal document that also described Explorer as being "seen as a commodity." "