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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (46859)	1/21/1999 10:43:00 AM
From: Daniel Shaffer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572719

Re. Overclockers Thanks, Jim! In this Techworld dominated by multibillionaire control freaks, it is heartening to know that guerilla computing is alive and well.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (46859)	1/21/1999 2:38:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1572719

McMannic - Re: "Guys like Paul think overclocking is a fools game" Read this: whatisnew.com Statement on Overclocking: "Every once in a while, we feel we need to make a statement on overclocking systems. For those of you who don't know, overclocking is changing the processor settings so that the system operates beyond specification. Doing so can cause stress on components. Remember, these products are not designed to run at faster settings. Pushing a system beyond specifications is using the product in a way not intended by the manufacturers. It voids your warranties. (On that product and on all other products in the system.) Changing settings from what the manufacturer suggests shortens the lifetime of the product. This is a nice way of saying that overclocking the processor may short the CPU, and that damage may cause the memory, power supply, drives and other components to stop working too. Beginning symptoms are the system locking up, getting memory errors, and booting problems. Yes, it is a fire hazard. If you have overclocked your system, have system problems, and call or email us, please just tell us that you've overclocked your system. When we ask if your system settings were proper, please don't lie and say "pretty much" or not answer the question. If you'd like us to help and the damage isn't too great, we can send your product in for repair. You pay the shipping to us, shipping to the manufacturer, any charges from the manufacturer, then shipping back to ESC and back to you. The RMA process may take 6 to 8 weeks. Basically, we act as a middle person for the repair. Of course, the manufacturer may opt to do nothing. This has happened, and is always a choice of the manufacturer. Remember, it's your decision on how to treat your product and spend your money. If you return a product to us, and that product was in an overclocked system, and your product damages our products then you are liable. For instance, last week someone returned an Abit BH6 motherboard that they had overclocked with a Celeron 300A processor. This person only bought the board from us -- complained that after a few days the board stopped working. So, we assigned an RMA number. When it arrived, techs put it on a bench and set up our POSTPlus diagnostic card, memory, power supply, etc, and when the power turned on it caught on fire. We didn't know the board had been overclocked. We wouldn't have touched it if we'd known. The client not being honest with us, caused a fire, and damaged our equipment. Luckily, no one was injured and the situation was resolved promptly. This isn't an isolated situation. Technology always changes, and perhaps one day manufacturers will make the speedy system that is at an affordable price. Until then, please use caution. Please use product as manufacturers suggest. " Paul