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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (46941)	1/21/1999 6:49:00 PM
From: RDM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571811

From your analysis of the data from the VP of AMD Marketing, when do you think the K7 will be formally announced? Q2 goes from April 1 through June 30. If we are starting a pool, I guess for Formal K7 Announcement: Date: May 25, 1999 Max Clock: 540 Mhz I know nothing inside and have heard nothing other than what is on SI.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (46941)	1/21/1999 7:15:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1571811

Intel likes to screw the customer Since the release of the PIII is coming in within six weeks, I thought I would post how Intel likes to screw the customer, and how they will continue to do so. Back in 1997, right after Christmas Intel released the Pentium MMX, practically making all PCs purchased during the large 1996 Christmas season old technology. All customers of Pentium systems had to live with slower performance. To summarize, Intel screwed the customer. A few months later in 1997, Intel released the PII. The PII was the next big thing in computers, or so the customer thought. The PII actually ran on the FX chipset, a chipset that was pretty old for Intel's standards. It was the same chipset that ran the Pentium Pro, a processor that came out a year or more before the PII. A few months after the PII came out, Intel released the LX chipset. The LX chipset allowed features as Dimms and AGP. Customers who thought they bought the the best thing ended up having old technology. Again, Intel screwed the customer. In 1998, Intel released the 266MHz Celeron processor. First of all, the Celeron shouldn't have come out. It was slower, and more expensive than Intel's 233MHz Pentium MMX and AMD's 200MHz K6. The Celeron screwed the Intel as much as it screwed the customer. Since the Celeron was such a POS, no one in a proper state of mind would recommend purchasing it. PC Magazines told customers to stay away from this dog. This fiasco enabled AMD to jump in and gain marketshare. Since this is about Intel's screwing the customer, I won't go into futher detail about that. A few months after the original Celeron came out, Intel released the Celeron "A". this chip was a decent performer, much better than the original Celeron. People who purchsed the original Celeron ended up having old technology, actually more than a year old, in their homes. Intel screwed the customer and themselves in this case. Now, it is 1999 and the PIII is going to come in the beginning of March. When the PIII comes out, it will run on the BX chipset. It will have a few things over the PII, like KNI, a security enhancement, and cost. This is starting to sound like the release of the PII all over again. A few months after the PIII comes out, Intel will release a new chipset, Camino. This chipset will allow for 4X AGP, support of RAMBUS RAM, and a 133MHz bus. These features will probably offer a much greater performance boost over the original PIII than the original PIII over the PII. Also expected by Intel, and probably coinciding with the release of the of the Camino chipset or the shift to the .18 process, is extra L1 cache for the PIII. What will the customer who purchased a PIII before the Camino chipset have? Old technology. Chalk another one up for Intel screwing the customer. Who knows how Intel will screw the customer in 2000... I could also talk about the six month Merced delay, something that forced many OEMs to restructure their late 1999 plans, but I think this is enough to get you informed.