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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: halfscot who wrote (10396)	1/22/1999 12:55:00 AM
From: Jack Be Quick	Respond to of 13994

<<when he's the one who's decimated the military.>> Good point halfscot. While the republican congress deserves 100% of the credit for balancing the budget (having probably just passed some of Reagan's old budgets while Clinton was busy doing nothing and the rest of the dems were out to lunch), Clinton is solely responsible for having single-handedly "decimated" the military. He did this all without a single republican vote in the House of Representatives. We will all know who is to blame if a hostile military power, such as Belize, attacks and overpowers the U.S. Clearly, we should immediately cut all federal taxes by 75% and quadruple defense spending to counter such a threat. (Btw, what's up with LMT? Is there really only a pe=12 future for my favorite defense/aerospace guys?) John

To: halfscot who wrote (10396)	1/22/1999 3:02:00 AM
From: The Irb	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

halfscot wrote: The partisanship I referred to is the constant vitriol and attacking anything Republican giving no credit where it's due-especially when they steal their ideas. The "constant vitriol and attacking" I hear comes primarily from right-wing Republicans attacking Bill and Hillary Clinton as symbols of moral decay and the success of feminism, respectively. From a purely tactical viewpoint, what could a politician gain by giving credit to a member of the opposing party besides general good will among other politicians? Sadly, that prospect seems far off now that the House GOP has impeached Clinton for his alleged lying about sex. This means political war and a hardening of party lines; i.e. more people will have strong negative feelings toward one party or the other. Again looking at tactically, why should the Dems call attention to the fact that the Republicans have conceded their centrist position? The Dems will let the Republicans twist in the wind and reap the benefits of public antipathy for the GOP's hypocritical vote to impeach Clinton. If the Democrats can win by co-opting the Republicans' best and least radical ideas without calling attention to that fact, that only makes them clever. (Remember: The bigger the Democratic victory, the more liberal the policies they will enact. Be afraid. Be very afraid...) Every chance they get [Democrats] savage Reagan and the greed of the eighties when in fact the richer are getting richer even faster than when Reagan was in office but of course the press conveniently overlooks this fact. Excellent point except for the comment about the press. The mainstream press have largely ignored the stagnation or deterioration in living standards for many people. They want to sell papers, not bore people to sleep with policy wonkery. (Also, who can blame the large media conglomerates for ignoring poor people whom their advertisers largely ignore anyway? Certainly not the shareholders! ;-) Meanwhile, there's a growing populist movement for a living wage, as defined as a percentage of the cost of housing in a given region, and the alternative press are covering this and other issues in depth. This is by definition a local issue because living costs vary from city to city. Sounds like it fits right in with the GOP plan to return power back to the states. halfscot also wrote: The object is to never give credit where it's due unless he and the Dems can take it, after all the Republicans are evil, selfish, and want to totally control our lives-sounds a lot like transference to me. Now maybe this is to be expected in politics but not to the extent and with the enmity exhibited by the current Dems. Actually, I and my Democratic friends think of the current crop of Repubs as weak and pathetic pawns of the Christian right wing and the corporations, not as evil, selfish control freaks as you suggest. Now that Clinton has moved the Dems to the right, the Repubs are rightfully scared that they will become the party that's considered too radical to govern due to their own lunatic fringe. This completes the parties' role reveral: Bill Clinton is our Ronald Reagan, Al Gore will be our George Bush. Who will your Bill Clinton be? George W. Bush, that's who. But you gotta wait until '04 for history to repeat itself. I can hear George W's advisers now: "It's the economy, Stupid". The Irb Austin, Texas P.S. Hook 'em, Horns! Let us pause to give thanks for Ricky Williams.