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To: VINCENT MALGAPO who wrote (518)1/22/1999 8:41:00 PM
From: William Sheppard  Respond to of 1606
 
Vincent Malgapo wrote:

3. Avoiding direct competition with SUN for JVMs for SPARC devices makes sense for two reasons:

(a) Sun's own Java Embedded Server is probably optimized for that environment anyway.
(b) Unlike JAVA, the Java Embedded Server is not free (it is sold for $3,500 per developer seat plus royalties on network installations and OEM devices).

Thus, if the JENE is in fact superior to the Java Embedded Server, Sun is unlikely to thank INSGY for taking away sales in a direct competition on Sun's own SPARC systems. Why irritate a giant if that can be avoided?


The Java Embedded Server is an entirely different project than Sun's EmbeddedJava and Insignia's JENE. The Java Embedded Server is an application server written in Java (allowing small JVM-equipped devices to act as a Web server or provide similar function).

Also, Java is not free. The run-time version for your desktop is essentially free (provided by Sun or Microsoft), but if you want to ship some flavor of Java in a device you still pay a royalty, whether that's to Sun, Insignia, or one of the RTOS companies who have licensed from Sun.

Bill



To: VINCENT MALGAPO who wrote (518)1/23/1999 4:13:00 PM
From: Prognosticator  Respond to of 1606
 
Vincent:

thank you for posting the thoughtful response to my analysis by fomm50. I agree with most of if (given Bills clarification of the Java Embedded Server information techstocks.com.

A thought: are investors perhaps confused by the similarity of the terms Jini and JENE: they can be pronounced identically. That would be unfortunate since it would imply that Insignia would benefit direcly from anything related to Jini and Sun, which is not true, though success of Jini might lead to more use of JENE as long as JENE is the best, most cost effective solution to embedded JVM's.

I had not seen the advantages to Insignia avoiding the SPARC platform. Regarding the use of Windows CE in deeply embedded systems such as those which will benefit most from Jini, my opinion after many years in the embedded systems development arena is that CE is simply not appropriate.

JENE sits on top of other RTOS kernels. This is a technical advantage, since it lends portability, robustness, and credibility to JENE as a young technology. However, it may prove a drawback to acceptance by systems integrators (e.g. disk drive manufacturers) who will have to pay royalties to Insignia, Sun, and the RTOS vendor. In deeply embedded, cost is everything, and pennies count.

A Jini solution which ran on bare hardware (and I believe Sun is working on such a beast) would be more attractive than a JENE solution: one stop shopping from Sun, and only one set of royalties to pay.

P.