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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (28983)	1/24/1999 4:38:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

LRR: Unfortunately, although they are inept at their many self-appointed tasks, they utterly fail when it comes to understanding how to create wealth: Leftists and Communists, etc. have a plan: 1) Build a base of support to 2) Take over at the highest level possible, in order to 3) share the wealth. FT

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (28983)	1/24/1999 9:03:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

LRR -- Socialists are just as varied as conservatives. Many suffered from searing poverty that scarred them so that they hoped that they could replace it with something much much better than failed capitalism. I grew up so poor that a "friend" gave my mother a 14 year old girl as a slave to nurse me in 1930, and we got poorer because there was another mouth to feed. During the depression the State of Georgia stopped paying salaries to employees. We had no food, until the department head came by with bags of groceries for us that we could share with Minnie. I remember traveling through rural Georgia in 1936 and inventing Keynesian economics (independently). In every vill there were nearly naked people sitting on rotten wooden steps to their hovels. In every field there was cotton rotting. In every town there were shut down cotton mills and starving millhands. I asked my father why the naked ones didn't pick the cotton and start the mills to make them clothes. My father, who taught economics in college, replied something about unemployment quasi-disequilibrium wage rigidity and the political and legal impossibility of my plan. I became a socialist on the spot until I studied Keynes from a better teacher at his college 14 years later. My best friend was a Marxist who wrote his dissertation on Marx's predictions, and discovered that they could not be derived from his premises, so his premises could still be correct -- capital accumulates willy-nilly, monopolization takes place (look at top capitalized MSFT and INTEL that make few jobs but many profits), the poor and ignorant competitors and workers are ground to dust, they are denied livelihood and meaning in life, an elite (CP) organizes them and they seize power, expropriate the expropriators (no "reform" or "redistribution" for them) and initate an age of plenty in which everyone, unrestrained by scarcity, enjoys the good things of life (which Marx thought to be art, and beauty, and kindness he didn't know about KNI new instructions). No one must do anything -- its built into history. No one must be killed unless they hang on to their wealth too hard. It shouldn't be forced (Lenin explained imperialism and finance capitalism -- late perversions to industrial capitalism which unfought could delay the revolution endlessly. He would have included Keynes if he had foressen it.) Keynes viewed Lenin as an enemy both of civilization (which he loved extravagantly) and capitalism -- which he hoped to save. His end was the same as Marx's -- a peaceful artistic and free world for everyone. Different roads for different toads.