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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (47360)1/26/1999 2:35:00 AM
From: Petz  Respond to of 1571614
 
Tench, >>>At the very worst (sic), there is an eighteen-month window of opportunity for AMD to exploit<<<

18 months is an eternity in this business, enough time to double its penetration from 15% to 30%.

>>>There is no way that either Intel or AMD will deploy their seventh-generation processors across all market segment<<<

Agree with you completely! Market segmentation is exactly what AMD need to double its market share (again).

Petz



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (47360)1/26/1999 5:18:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr  Respond to of 1571614
 
Tench - RE: "By the way, I'll be e-mailing Linley Gwennap a revised copy of my rant just to see what he has to say in response."

I was going to suggest you do that, but seems like you already did. Let us know what he says. It should be interesting.

RE: "Perhaps Mr. Gwennap is assuming that Intel can't do any better than a K7-look-alike for Willamette."

As I have said, IF the K7 is all that it is cracked up to be, it should outperform any Intel chip. If the if becomes a reality, and IF the K7 gets pumped out in volume by Q4 '99/Q1 '00, will Intel have anything to position against it? They will have a Coppermine for desktops, and whatever the server version of the Xeon with on-chip cache and KNI is. Is there anything else Intel has announced on their roadmap?

RE: "At the very worst, there is an eighteen-month window of opportunity for AMD to exploit. That window will only grow smaller, especially if AMD fails to execute as before."

I think the K6 was announced in March/April '97. The K6 didn't hit close to volume production until the end of '97/beginning of '98. That means there were quite a few months of nothing. 18 months after the K6 came out was September/October '98. AMD had quite a bit of production between the time volume production was achieved and the 18 month mark after the K6 came out. If AMD ends up following the same schedule, and I hope they don't, they will still have the K7 out in volume production at least half a year ahead of Willamette. Of course, if Intel ends having a chip that can compete with the K7 before Willamette that I don't know of, AMD better have a ramp up close to the K6-2's ramp up.

RE: "I don't forsee AMD replacing their K6-2 (or K6-3) with the K7 in the low-end in the next two years"

I would assume that there will be a low-end version of the K7, at least on the .18 process. I doubt AMD will wanna put 600MHz L2 cache on a low-end K6-3 in '00.

RE: "But I am saying that Linley Gwennap is way off-the-mark with his latest article."

I am surprised that a guy who writes for the Microprocessor Report wrote such a harsh article. Don't they get all the info they describe/write about and sell from Intel themselves?

Again, maybe this guy knows something about the K7's performance that we don't know...