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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (47422)	1/26/1999 4:24:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573646

<Dixon could move to .18u/desktop but the real problem is that this chip is faster clock for clock than the Pentium III.> No problem. First of all, I think Coppermine, the 0.18 micron desktop version of the Pentium III, will have 256K of on-die cache, but don't quote me on that. Second, if there are two versions of the Pentium III at the same speed, one with on-die cache, and the other with off-chip cache, Intel will just resort to the 'PE' designation to differentiate between the two. Remember that the Dixon is now sold at 266PE, 300PE, 333, and 366. The 266PE and 300PE monikers are supposed to differentiate Dixon from the 266 and 300 MHz mobile Deschutes. It's the Celeron 300 vs. 300A scenario all over again. Tenchusatsu

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (47422)	1/26/1999 6:37:00 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573646

Jim, all, I estimate size of Dixon even bigger, as large as 184 mm^2. I believe the Deshutes die was shrunk from 130 to 120 (saw this someplace), so the 128K cache on the Celeron takes 154-120=34 mm^2. Add another 30 to double the cache size (control circuitry doesn't double) and you get 184. I also remember AMD claiming that the k6-3 was for the notebook market, but the two samples we've seen were in socket 7 packaging (Anandtech and Thresh firingsquad). Also, there was a somewhat ambiguaous statement in the CC about a 2nd quarter release of the notebook K6-3. Although its not on their official roadmap, if Intel manages to get decent percentage yields on the big Dixon chip, and AMD is threatening their Pentium III/Pentium II market with the K6-3, they will make a desktop version. Petz