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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (30781)	1/29/1999 11:27:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

1. Most of us don't hate Clinton, which implies a certain ferocity of feeling, but think that he's a jerk. Since there is ample evidence that that is so, regardless of one's political persuasion, I would say that "Clinton hating" is a perfectly rational response to the man. 2. Republicans are glad that Clinton has gone along with much of their agenda, and many of them would have been glad to have shared credit with him, but he is a back- stabbing S.O.B. and credit- grabber. Remember, many of us fled the Democratic Party, and supported the Democratic Leadership Council ( of which Clinton was once head). 3. I actually find that a lot of my distaste for the man falls into the first of Sullivan's categories. When I was a teenager, I volunteered in a McGovern campaign office, and got to know a bunch of aspiring young collegiate Democrats. Some of them, generally in law school, combined smugness with an aching ambition, allowing them to pursue their own petty interests and feel self- righteous at the same time. Bill reminds me of those creeps.

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (30781)	1/29/1999 11:39:00 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

It's personal and aggravated Whenever I get into an extended discussion on the subject of Clinton there always arises hurts, real or imagined, dating back to the time of Nixon. There's a real sense of payback, only I can never get an answer as to payback for what, and why it's Clinton's fault. My own pop-psych idea is that it is a reaction to fear of the future as the known terrors of the cold war switch to the unknown world of information and diversity. TP

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (30781)	1/29/1999 3:21:00 PM
From: John Lacelle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Daniel, Very good post. Like I said before, you know more than you let on. I agree much with the material presented. Today, it seems that any President's popularity is really linked to the economy. Its too bad really because its not like a President has all that much control over a 7 trillion dollar GDP like the United States. The only real reason Clinton is being punished so hard right now is that he violated two principles set out by the father of Political Science, Machiavelli. In the book "The Prince", Machiavelli noted that only way a Prince could infuriate his subjects would be to either take their property, or make use of their wives and daughters. Clinton threatened everyones healthcare in 1994 with a massive government takeover and hit rock bottom in the polls. He learned his lesson but then he took advantage of the women. Now the boy is on trial in the Senate. He will survive but he damaged his Princedom. -John