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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (36189)	1/29/1999 1:01:00 PM
From: Platter	Respond to of 95453

Oil at 12.60 , up 15 cents....RON tugging on the OSX.

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (36189)	1/29/1999 1:04:00 PM
From: Platter	Respond to of 95453

Oil now at 12.62, UP 17 cents!

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (36189)	1/29/1999 1:27:00 PM
From: Webster Groves	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

* OT * <<In fact, I don't care about what the other countries think - my government is protecting my interests by ensuring stability where my energy comes from.>> Sorry to but in, but this thread is getting too political. Come to think of it, though, what could be more political than oil. Your energy comes from North America. The Mid-east is not essential, but nevertheless controls pricing. Funny how the Europeans who depend more on the Middle East seem less concerned about Iraq. I am trying to come up with an economic model for the price of oil that includes the value of a human life. (I can hear it now: "Johnny (or Mohammed) died for cheap oil - aren't you proud of him ?") All this Iraq business (us versus them) is wrapped up in flags on both sides..but really...it's about oil, stupid !!! US policy in the middle east isn't helping the Arabs (aside from ruling families), and it isn't helping my friends in Texas. By the way, comments about the US being "one of the few countries in the world where you can get the "real" story indicates you don't get around much. Do you read anything other than USA Today ??? -wg P.S. #1 Sorry for venting, but I'm beginning to see oil stains on the flag. P.S. #2 Bought VTS today at 11 7/8 - a good buy.

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (36189)	1/29/1999 1:37:00 PM
From: A. Geiche	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 95453

OT That is different issue, sir. That you can change your government "to an extent" is nothing but illusion. In Europe they can do it better. The countries you are talking about are DEVELOPING countries. They have great many awfully difficult problems; and one of the worse of them (in many countries that you are pointing to) - achieving an actual independence from the countries that were exploiting them centuries. The Soviet Union, by the way, was but one of such developing countries. In this regard I would like just to mention this. The South Vietnam was country of fascistic dictatorship -- not any democracy. United States supported that fascistic dictatorship pointing out that it is necessary and will stay in this country until its political and economic problems are resolved. Right... As for the war there, even majority of South Viet-Nameses called it "American war". Enough of this though.