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To: Jeff Fox who wrote (72499)1/30/1999 12:33:00 AM
From: philipah  Respond to of 186894
 
Jeff-
Enjoyed your sober reasoning on
a highly charged subject.
Thanks for a good read.
P



To: Jeff Fox who wrote (72499)1/30/1999 6:11:00 PM
From: John Hull  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
------- STRICTLY MY PERSONAL OPINION ----------
Jeff,
On one hand I agree with you, Intel did not introduce this capability in a way that would make it well received.

On the other, I don't agree with you. Everything in my life has ID numbers on it. SS#, Vin#, DL#, Credit Card#, Employee#, House#, I'm registered on a zillion things, inlcuding just about every warranty for every product I buy over $50. My ISP (the dreaded phone company) got a ton of info from me when I signed up. My ATM card tells the bank where I've been withdrawing money. My copy of windows95 has a product ID as does my turbotax (does intuit have me in a database secretly downloading my income tax returns?- who cares, after all, i already give those to the government.

My doctor has my blood.

You have my e-mail address, my employers name, where i went to college and could call me at work anytime you want.

I guess I've taken the approach toward privacy that says that I will defend my privacy by supplying SO much information about myself to so many entities that I'll data-swamp anyone looking in on my life. I figure they'll have so much data that much of it will conflict and they'll never be sure what's current or accurate. The IRS has a hard time getting a blank tax form to my correct current address, I can't imagine how they (the gov't) could be competent enough to maintain any really interesting data on me efficiently.

I'm sensitive to your perception that you have some kind of privacy, maybe you do. I'm sensitive to somebody not wanting to sign up their names on ONE MORE thing, that's cool, turn off the feature and refuse to do business with someone who demands it be on. You may do that already, if so, great.

By the way, the only way a CPU ID will identify YOU is if you type your name into the registration box/password site that can then be associated with the ID # on the CPU - it can't sneak into your wallet and take down your DL info by itself. If you think registration sites are an invasion of privacy, don't frequent them, but don't blame the processor for a sudden loss of privacy that you never had.

And of course, no, the CPU ID by itself does not provide iron clad security, as has been pointed out by many experts in the press. No single measure does. Only a combination of measures can keep out the largest majority of miscreants.

Furthermore, in regard to " I for one do not want to ever see a message like this, "VISA transactions require your CPU ID to be enabled". I for one can't wait. I think the ability to (if I select the option) of having my online purchases require the CC#, a personal password and a cpu ID# combination is great. That'll be more secure than 99% of the other places I use my credit card. Gee, if I use multiple PCs, I may have to register each one that I want to have this additional security level, that's OK by me.

Don't forget that most corporate accounts have been begging for this
feature to help them with asset tracking and manageability

In conclusion. If you don't want it, turn it off. While, it is my contention, that you may not have privacy. You are free to use or not use this product feature.

I may be in the minority in this position. If I am, the market will make the majority position clear and that's the way the world will move. Let's all see what happens.

regards,
jh



To: Jeff Fox who wrote (72499)1/30/1999 8:52:00 PM
From: kash johal  Respond to of 186894
 
Jeff,

Re: PIII ID issue

I enjoyed you post immensely.
It was well thought out and rational and even handed.

I would only make one comment.

Intel should offer both flavors to the consumer.
One where it is masked off and the other flavor where the customer can enable it if he/she wishes.

This way they can come across as being customer driven, and responsive etc.

It will cool off the bloodhounds who are chasing them right now.

Regards,

Kash