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To: Scumbria who wrote (47896)	1/30/1999 2:36:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571061

<Merced is going nowhere real fast. The chip is huge and will not be manufacturable in quantity. The performance will probably be a great disappointment as well.> While performance is definitely up in the air, I really don't think the chip is going to be extremely hard to manufacture. Sure it's bigger and more complicated than the Xeon die, but is that really saying much these days? Besides, I got word that the Merced schedule looks pretty firm and unlikely to slip barring a major incident. Tenchusatsu

To: Scumbria who wrote (47896)	1/30/1999 11:21:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571061

Scumby - Re: " Merced is going nowhere real fast. The chip is huge and will not be manufacturable in quantity. The performance will probably be a great disappointment as well. " You know ALL about the K7's performance and ALL about the MERCED performance - and neither of these have been released. Why don't you quit embarrassing yourself and destroying whatever credibility you have left - and stop posting your opinions which have no facts to support them ? Paul

To: Scumbria who wrote (47896)	1/30/1999 9:09:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571061

Scumbria, Looks like Compaq, AMD and Samsung are cooking up several options with Alpha's, motherboards and K7's. February 01, 1999, Issue: 1046 Section: Systems & Software Unit aims to bring Alpha motherboards to mainstream -- Samsung group to ride Slot B Rick Boyd-Merritt Concord, Mass. - Alpha Processor Inc., a subsidiary of Samsung, will roll out its first Alpha motherboards using core logic from Compaq Computer Corp. today in the first leg of its plan to bring the Alpha processor to mainstream markets in North America. Later this year, the company plans to launch four other motherboards, all of which will support the Slot B processor interface defined by Advanced Micro Devices Inc. for its K7 X86-clone CPU. "From here on out it will all be Slot B," said Y.J. Kim, director of product marketing for Alpha Processor Inc. (API). Systems are being designed around core logic from Compaq, API and a chip partner yet to be named. AMD licensed the Alpha EV-6 processor bus for use in its K7, designed by a team that included former Alpha engineers. AMD married the Alpha bus to the mechanical form factor of Intel's Slot 1 interface for its Pentium II processor cards to create the AMD Slot B. The common Alpha/K7 interface opens the door to chip sets and motherboards that could interchangeably use K7 or Alpha processors. An API spokesman said engineers from API and AMD are exploring the technical merit of such designs but have not committed to them. For now, API is pursuing selling processors and systems that top the speeds of PC CPUs and buses, but hit lower costs-$10,000 to $15,000 to start and under $5,000 later, said Kim. The API motherboards will not support Rambus until next year. However, it is believed some of the systems set to ship in 1999 will support double-data-rate SDRAMs. The Compaq three-chip set in the AlphaPC 264DP boards supports single- or dual-processor systems on an 83-MHz system bus, along with two 33-MHz, 64-bit PCI slots and up to 4 Gbytes of SDRAM. Peak transfer is 2.6 Gbytes/second. Compaq today will roll out at least two systems-a workstation and a server-using the same core logic (see related story, at right). All use 500- and 600-MHz versions of the Alpha 21264, also known as the EV-65, which API said it is shipping in production volumes. API will price its boards from $2,643 for a single-CPU daughtercard with 2 Mbytes of L2 cache to $5,757 for a full motherboard with one CPU daughtercard sporting 4 Mbytes of L2.