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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (31049)1/30/1999 1:15:00 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
I purposely did not mention the race of the offenders, because it does not matter. There are white sociopaths. The various school house murders have been perpetrated by whites. As I have mentioned in the past, my sister- in- law is African- American, and I have a niece and a nephew of mixed race, and that is fine with me.
Not to put too fine a point on it, the racial world of the '50's sucked. On the other hand, I have been at a conservative meeting with James Meredith, who integrated Ol' Miss, and as he said, "different times, different issues". Actually, the clearest proof that the social programs of the '60's were at best ineffectual, and at worst destructive, is the fact that the ghettoes have become less livable since the general conditions of blacks in society, including educational and income levels, have improved.
Perhaps I should not have used the phrase "simply true". But the moral hazards of welfare are generally agreed upon, the question has usually been how to address them. And even many liberals agree that there is a cultural problem among the underclass (which is not only black, but also Hispanic and white, generally migrants from Appalachia or the Ozarks. In fact, there are many more whites on welfare than blacks, it is the percentages that make it a "black problem").
Yes, I do think that the main problem in inner city schools is a lack of discipline, and that a sense of shame and responsibility should be instilled in everyone. That is where the Clinton stuff comes in. We cannot effectively encourage a sense of honor when the President so obviously lacks one. Clinton is not responsible for the troubles cited, but we are obliged to show that we take issues like lying under oath seriously.



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (31049)1/30/1999 1:48:00 PM
From: Sedohr Nod  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
>the '50's world of shotgun weddings, homes for unwed mothers<.......replaced by the 80's & 90's world of sperm donors with no responsibility .....

ever stop to think what the government subsidizing and thus promoting single parent households has done to the divorce and teenage pregnancy rates.....ever see a 22 year old woman with 8 kids (none of them twins) and wonder how much the sperm donors contributed to the support of those kids?....ever wonder if any of them were found guilty of statutory rape?

ever wonder how dropping standards over 40 years can lead to your president saying something as "radical" as "high school graduates should be able to read their diplomas" in the state of the union address.......if the fifties were bad, just what do we have now?