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To: Brooks Jackson who wrote (2142)1/30/1999 10:42:00 PM
From: jjs_ynot  Respond to of 20297
 
Good luck. Criteria number 1, currently undervalued will screen many/most opportunities IMO.



To: Brooks Jackson who wrote (2142)1/30/1999 11:04:00 PM
From: TLindt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20297
 
Hey...Brooks. When we steam roll a $100 by Christmas?

I'll drop the question mark...and rename the thread...Woodies Wonder!

Then we can all start talking backwards again, and to show you I'm a good sport....I'll even shave my head.



To: Brooks Jackson who wrote (2142)1/31/1999 12:01:00 AM
From: BeverlyB7  Respond to of 20297
 
Next CKFR: I will make two related predictions. These are Globalstar (GSTRF) and Loral (LOR). Globalstar is the riskier of the two, is a public company, but is about 42%+% owned by LOR, and has the same CEO/Chairman of Board, Bernard Schwartz. I read an enormous amount of information about these companies on the AOL/MotleyFool LOR board over a period of about 2 years. Much of the information comes from a very knowledgeable contributor, "Readware", who has since left the board. Also from other very knowledgeable contributors, who generously gave of their thoughts and knowledge. Readware described himself as a member of a company that advises governments and the wealthy about satellite investments. The CEO has been described as honest, caring about shareholder value, and brilliant. (I have had independent verification of this.) He took the previous Loral (a defense company - now owned by Lockheed Martin) from near bankruptcy to a most successful company in the 24 years he ran it. (By the way, I saw the last portion of a TV report on GSTRF/LOR that you did some time ago!) GSTRF is getting a collection of about 48 - 56 satellites up for wireless telephony covering virtually the entire world. It is especially concentrating on countries which have natural barriers to wired telephony, like China, India, Russia, etc - *large market*! It is pure telephony. Service should start mid or late 1999. LOR is "diversified satellites". They own a company which builds satellites & sells them to other satellite companies. They bought out AT&T's Skynet for satellite TV distribution. They own 42+% of GSTRF. They are in a joint venture with Mexico's major satellite company. They are in a joint venture with France's Alcatel Alsthom, for a major undertaking involving bandwidth for computer communication. They set up their own company, CyberStar, for bandwidth/computer communication, as well. I understand that GSTRF is supposed to be the most profitable (if all goes well). But then I read that CyberStar alone should be even more profitable than GSTRF. I believe that I have forgotten several other important joint ventures! CRITERIA 1. CURRENTLY UNDERVALUED: Because of a disastrous loss of 12 GSTRF satellites in one launching, and because of political problems due to Clinton, both stocks are cheap now. 2. *SHOULD* DOMINATE A MARKET DUE FOR EXPLOSIVE GROWTH: GSTRF has a better plan than Iridium, which is currently operating/aloft. LOR's business plan is supposed to be "brilliant". 3. PAINFULLY HONEST MANAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTING: I was told this by my broker. 4. RAZOR BLADE BUSINESSES: Both businesses will be "razor blade" businesses, in the sense that people must pay every month for service! I cannot attest to "economies of scale"! MUST-READ articles are contained in the technology business magazine, Red Herring, over the last two years. I don't recall exact reference. I believe these companies are about one year behind CKFR, in terms of beginning to move in the market However, at present the problems of these companies include financial problems because of the above discussed disasters. So, while they may yet fulfill their promise, they bear careful watching! IMHO!!



To: Brooks Jackson who wrote (2142)2/1/1999 10:46:00 PM
From: Roger Bass  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20297
 
NEXT CKFR

Brooks et al: I have one proposal, though I wouldn't claim the economics match CKFR. It's General Magic, GMGC. (TLindt's "rule" about picking stocks with Intuit relationships could apply here, too).

The vision here is more to do with being the 'voice portal to the Internet'. As a play, it's perhaps more similar to an @Home than a CKFR.

This is still clearly in the high risk category, there are other big companies (Motorola, Lucent) aiming to compete in this space etc (so far, so much like CKFR). Still FWIW, this is the second largest investment I have made after CKFR.

Briefly they have:
1. the best technology for recognizing multiple, complex voice commands
2. an operations center (rather than selling servers), be quickly deployed to all users
3. a lead in "v-commerce" ie voice-activated commerce
4. proprietary technology (MagicTalk) underlying their service

The advantages they get from these are as follows:

1. The ability to differentiate between commands or requests, for a large number of users with different voices, is critical to offering a service with the widest range of service options - ie a portal.

2. Technology improvements and (importantly) new services that they connect to can be rapidly deployed to all users, in the same way as a new service or modified search technology on Yahoo or Excite.

3. Advertising can be used to subsidize lower cost or free services (think of the AOL model) - and audio ads have fairly high 'clickthroughs'. Example "To place a trade with Charles Schwab, say 'Trade Now' ". The Intuit deal (again public info), includes a free service where you can access financial information from Quicken.com (which will also become part of the Portico service).

4. Don't have much to say on this - I should know more than I do. I've not clearly established for myself how much of an advantage this confers. Frankly I'm more convinced by the proprietary operational know-how that you acquire in operating a service (a la CKFR) that does something which is fundamentally quite hard.

On criteria (1), well I'd say it's somewhat neglected, but still not exactly cheap. General Magic still has a slightly bad smell from all the dumb things they were trying to do before. They've now spun those off into a separate company and are focusing on the Portico service.

On (3), I've not analyzed the accounting in minute detail, but have been through enough to have a fairly good feel about their management.

Anyone interested, come on over to the GMGC thread, where the tone of debate is fairly free of hypesters, though not quite at the analytical level we've come to expect here.