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To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (31176)	1/31/1999 8:05:00 AM
From: Johannes Pilch	Respond to of 67261

There is not much upon which to comment. Reading merely the article's title I guessed the substance of the thing, even nailing the denomination of the so called “church” involved. There is nothing substantial here. The Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) is notoriously liberal, to many being little more than a group of liberals who get together to accept all manner of liberal depravity. The national leadership of that organization has long desired to approve Sodomite marriage, but has rejected it for fear of causing a national uproar. There ostensibly remains a relative few PCUSA diehards who are not willing to give up on the denomination without a fight. So the national “church” has taken the path of all liberals, Sodomites in particular; namely, to ignore the positions of its more orthodox constituents, incrementally wearing down their ranks with depraved legislation and unprincipled arguments until resistance is no more. Regarding the justification of the New York group's decision, we note no reference to the Scriptures whatever, but instead find empty-headed liberal musings about God ‘crying less' and that sort of liberal hogwash. In the current unprincipled “feelings” oriented intellectual climate of today, such mushy headedness is difficult to argue against (we all have feelings, but so few of us have brains). So the time will come when the PCUSA will openly perform Sodomite marriages, instead of slithering behind mealy-mouthed language proscribing ceremonies that are the “same as a marriage ceremony.” In and of itself there is nothing substantial about this. It is merely a sign of the times-- your juggernaut. Nevertheless decent people will always reject homosexuality; and so when the time comes the few left within the PCUSA can fortunately retreat to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and the Presbyterian Church of America. These two churches are stalwarts of reformation orthodoxy.

To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (31176)	1/31/1999 10:48:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Borzou, the sad thing is parts of the homosexual community actually believe Bill Clinton cares about them. All he cares about is the campaign contributions they can raise. Check out this story and picture what attitude your buddy Barney Frank would have if President Reagan was accused of this. Why isn't he demanding a congressional investigations to get to the truth? And I wonder why we haven't heard neery a peep about it in the mainstream press?? Here are the questions a real reporter in the press would attempt to answer... 1. Is the story true. There should be ample evidence regarding prison records? 2. Did Governor Clinton pass legislation allowing this? 3. Did any friends of Bill benefit financially from this? 4. Did those same friends contribute to Bill's campaign? 5. Was Hillaries law firm involved and how? 6. Did Vince Foster and Hillary work together on the issue? 7. Who was in charge of the Arkansas corrections institute? Were they friends of Bill and Hillary? 8. How many people (including children) have been infected by this tainted blood? 9. Why was the activity allowed? 10. Why was the activity stopped and when? It's too bad we will probably have to read about the investigation in the Ottawa papers to find out anything of value. But at least we have the net. :-) nationalpost.com Michael ______________________________________________________________________ Haemophiliacs sue over tainted blood from Arkansas prisoners Firms, Ottawa negligent? Mark Kennedy Ottawa Citizen Tainted-blood victims will launch a $300-million lawsuit today against two companies and the federal government over the shipment to Canada of contaminated plasma from U.S. prisons. The lawsuit follows a series of investigative stories by the Ottawa Citizen last fall that revealed how a U.S. firm with links to Bill Clinton, the U.S. president, collected bad blood from Arkansas prison inmates and sold it abroad. The class-action lawsuit will involve about 200 haemophiliacs infused with the prison plasma in the early 1980s and who later developed hepatitis C. In their statement of claim, to be filed in a Toronto court, the victims will allege the companies that distributed the plasma - believed to be infected with HIV and hepatitis C - were negligent, and that federal regulators were also at fault. The victims' lawyer, David Harvey, said yesterday they are seeking about $300-million in damages. "Everybody turned a blind eye because they were making money, and they sacrificed our lives," said lead plaintiff Mike McCarthy, a Waterloo, Ont., resident with hepatitis C. "There has to be justice here." By early 1983, U.S. companies that fractionate blood products had stopped buying prison plasma -- at the request of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) -- because it was widely understood that, since many inmates practiced unsafe gay sex or were intravenous drug addicts, their blood posed a high risk of carrying the AIDS virus. However, this didn't stop prison blood centres from selling their products to foreign companies. The companies being sued are: Connaught Laboratories, a Toronto-based firm that manufactured blood products for Canadian patients, many of them haemophiliacs, and Continental Pharma Cryosan, a Montreal blood broker that imported plasma from prisons in Arkansas and Louisiana and resold it to Connaught. At the Krever inquiry, Connaught said it didn't realize it was buying inmates' plasma and that the shipping papers accompanying the plasma had not revealed the centre was located in a prison. They simply referred to the source as the "ADC Plasma Center, Grady, Arkansas," without any indication "ADC" stood for Arkansas Department of Corrections. As well, although Connaught had received an FDA inspection report that revealed the centre was in a prison, the report was not reviewed by the company. Mr. Harvey said that constitutes negligence. "They're manufacturing the product. It's their obligation to ensure that the raw materials that they're purchasing are of good quality. That requires them to know everything about how and where the materials are being collected." As for Continental Pharma, company president Thomas Hecht told the Citizen last November his firm did know it was importing prison plasma. But he insisted scientific knowledge at the time didn't indicate inmates' plasma was any riskier than the general population. As well, he said his firm supplied "U.S. government licensed product and never denied its origins" to customers including Connaught. The victims will contend in their lawsuit that Continental knew, or should have known, about the higher risks associated with prison plasma. The federal government is being sued for allegedly failing its responsibilities as the blood system's safety regulator by neglecting to properly police the two firms. Regulators in Health Canada apparently didn't know that Connaught and Continental were dealing in prison plasma, which the Red Cross had stopped collecting in Canada as far back as 1971. "It's their obligation to regulate the industry,"said Mr. Harvey.