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To: Father Terrence who wrote (29618)	1/31/1999 11:44:00 AM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

There can be no rational argument to remove people if deemed "useless". (Useless by whom, to whom? People are NOT resources, despite the vile corporate term, human resources.) If rights are recognized, each individual has a right to his/her own life. No other individual, committee, board, council or State can pronounce an individual "useless, obsolete, ready to be removed or expunged or terminate". That would be irrational in the face of self-evident rights. Besides, an individual's intrinsic worth is not predicated on what value he/she can bring to the table. Yesss! Couldn't have said it better myself! However these rights are clearly not self-evident to everyone.

To: Father Terrence who wrote (29618)	1/31/1999 12:41:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>each individual has a right to his/her own life.< I do not believe in self evident rights. Rights are whatever a society chooses to give its members. In our society we are given certain rights under our Constitution- but they are not unlimited. We CAN be deprived of our life- but it must not be without due process of law- so we do not really have a right to our lives. We only have a right to them under certain conditions. One can make laws depriving people of life for various reasons- I see no reason per se why they need be criminal- they just happen to be criminal in our country. It is conceivable, for example, that one could make a law stating that deformed infants be terminated. Many societies have done and do this on a de facto basis. I, of course, do not advocate this, but one can make wonderful resource utilization arguments in its favor.