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To: Father Terrence who wrote (29657)1/31/1999 2:21:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
>>>>>Then you take issue with the Founding Fathers of the USA who held these rights to be self-evident...

...and as inalienable...<<<<<

LOL! How do you prove something that can't be proved? By asserting that it is "self-evident," of course. Anyone who doesn't agree with you must be unable to see what is obvious to all right-thinking people.

Your "right" to life can be forfeited, if you threaten the life of another, or take the life of another, that should be "self-evident." Your "right" to life is worthless if you are paralyzed or in a coma and no one wants to feed you.

Jefferson, owner of two hundred slaves, was a funny guy to talk about one's "inalienable" "right" to liberty.




To: Father Terrence who wrote (29657)1/31/1999 5:54:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
They may have said in some non-binding language that we had the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness- but in the documents that count (and the devil is in the details) they stipulate how life and liberty can be taken away. So I am not sure how self evident it all is.