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To: epicure who wrote (29735)	1/31/1999 6:47:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

X -- "Inalienable" simply means "not to be transferred to another." You may not sell your right to liberty, voluntarily become a slave, or to life, you may not give a creditor a pound of flesh. You knew that. Why did you spoof us?

To: epicure who wrote (29735)	1/31/1999 10:18:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

I think the problem that you, yourself have, and I would think Terry, as well, is that the rights Jefferson claimed in the Declaration of Independence derive from a philosophy of natural right, derived from God, which is part of a framework I think you have already rejected. I, personally, believe in God, and believe that he/she/it created mankind, and imbued mankind with the moral right to be left alone. I believe that if one does not respect the legitimate rights of others, you have acted immorally. It is just wrong, and moral beings do not do wrong things. But, I agree that at times it may be more practical to have a gun. Actually, I think that atheists are perfectly capable of moral philosophy, q.v. stoicism, Marcus Aurelius, but it doesn't seem to happen often.