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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24047)	2/3/1999 8:56:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Likud campaign reminiscent of early Brown shirt tactics (Today's Los Angeles Times) (Alan, the Israeli Labor Party is calling Nentanyahu and the present Israeli government fascists! Isn't this is precisely what I've been telling you about the Israeli government, that they are fascist? Now we have Israeli Jews of conscience and moral persuasion also calling the Israeli Likud Party fascist.(Do you think the Jews in the Labor Party are members of the KKK) It't quite clear that an honest appraisal of the present Zionist government in Israel is fascist. Dont you think it irresponsible for you to continue to support Netanyahu's fascist Likud Party? How can you deny being a Jewish fascist(or at least sympathetic to Jewish fascism) when you continue to support the Israeli governments racist policies against non-Jews? Just wondering how you justify and rationalize your position.) By TRACY WILKINSON, Times Staff Writer Los Angeles Times--(Feb. 3, l999) JERUSALEM--Israeli politics is starting to look like something out of a Jerry Springer show. With elections for prime minister and parliament still more than three months away, candidates Tuesday were flaying each other over who had the most fascist campaign slogan, who had done the most damage to the country and who was likely to do more damage in the future. But a new height in campaign hysterics was reached during one of Israel's foremost political talk shows. The rowdy behavior of the studio audience in a live television program featuring candidates for prime minister got so bad that the Israel Broadcasting Authority will probably ban audiences from now on. And state-run Israel Radio announced Tuesday that it will eliminate live call-in programs until after the May 17 elections. Political campaigns are often pretty nasty in Israel, but this year's race has taken on a more personal and bitter tone, say analysts who have been watching elections here for years. For only the second time, Israelis are being asked to vote for a prime ministerial candidate instead of voting for a party. Consequently, personality takes a front seat to issues, ideology and convictions. As Israeli campaigning becomes increasingly American in style, candidates who might have been bland but who stood for a party platform have been replaced by candidates who go for the glitz, the sound bite or the jugular. And with divisions in Israel's polarized society ever deeper, political attacks are more pointed and raw. This week, among the rawest have been broadsides over campaign slogans. Officials with the leftist Labor Party said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new slogan, "A strong leader for a strong people," has a distinct fascist ring to it and evokes memories of Nazi Germany. Netanyahu, the leader of the rightist Likud Party, countered that Labor candidate Ehud Barak's "One Israel" motto sounds to him like something Adolf Hitler would say. The acrimony descended to such levels that a Holocaust survivors group felt obliged to comment, appealing to Israeli politicians to keep the Holocaust out of the election campaign. For Monday night's broadcast of the weekly debate show "Politika," Netanyahu was accompanied by a studio audience full of supporters who cheered him vigorously as he spoke. Then it got rough. Netanyahu left the stage, and Barak, Netanyahu's principal challenger, arrived. The audience erupted in jeers, boos and catcalls. Every time Barak spoke, the crowd shouted him down. He couldn't finish a sentence. An increasingly agitated Barak pleaded to be allowed to speak and was ignored. The show's host also beseeched his audience to be quiet, to no avail. "Disgrace!" Barak cried out. Several Labor politicians, in the minority in the audience, said they were physically threatened and felt compelled to ask studio guards to escort them to their cars after the show. One said Likud militants in the audience spit on her. "What happened there was not befitting a democracy," Barak fumed Tuesday. Netanyahu countered that the show was democracy in action because people were allowed to Labor Party officials accused the state television network of "succumbing to thugs and bullies" by allowing the Likud supporters to gain the upper hand, adding that the whole episode was ominously reminiscent of the verbal violence that preceded the 1995 assassination of Labor Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Uri Porat, director of the Israel Broadcasting Authority, conceded that the program was out of control, with 450 supporters of both candidates trying to flood the studio. "It was a danger to democracy," he said. The clearly flustered host of the program, Yaacov Ahimeir, emerged Tuesday to protest the "atmosphere of extreme violence" in the Channel One studio, saying he had been powerless to control it.

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24047)	2/8/1999 1:06:00 AM
From: David fisk	Respond to of 39621

Alan, A Christian is not someone who necessarily claims to be a Christian. A Christian is someone who God has recreated in Christ Jesus by the power of The Holy Spirit. I personally judge no one as to whether they are or aren't, that's God's business. My job, as I have stated before, is to publish the truth about Jesus as Messiah. Those who believe and accept Him, only God really knows, I don't. I can guess, but I don't really know. God recreates us in Christ Jesus thereby translating us into the kingdom of His dear Son. Our first creation in the flesh is destined for the grave, our second creation is destined for heaven. "For we are God's masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, ..........." (Eph 2:10 NLT) "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Cor 5:17 NKJV) "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation." (Gal 6:15 NKJV) "and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness." (Eph 4:24 NKJV) This new creature contains within the temple of his physical body the divine Spirit of God. "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" (1 Cor 6:19 NKJV) The Holy Spirit of God is given to His children at the time of regeneration, that is, from spiritual death to spiritual life. In the following verses please notice "re ", that is "doing again". "not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit," (Titus 3:5 NKJV) "whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior," (Titus 3:6 NKJV) "that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life." (Titus 3:7 NKJV) God bless, David