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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (29938)2/3/1999 3:31:00 PM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Thank you for your thoughtful thought on the unthinkable. Its our English legal tradition that makes us punish on the act rather than the intention or capacity. When witches were burnt it was not because they soured milk but because they were thought to be able to. The crime we presently punish purely on intention is almost exclusively possession with intent. No drug dealer causes any harm by possession, but only his potential to sell, as long as he sat on his stash or smoked it up himself he could not injure others.
The real crime of intention of futurity is criminal conspiracy -- the mere planning and intention of doing something criminal. You may scathlessly plan to blow up the universe, but take one single preparatory step or overt act, and we will convict you of conspiracy. Of course, if one whose brain is programmed to kill little children or rape women, who buys a razor blades or lollipop has in my judgment (hyperprotective as it is) committed an overt act of a conspiracy with his non-prosecuting analyst to commit the object crime. Were the "scientific evidence of his malignity" known to the statistical criterion prescribed, and I the judge I'd charge the jury that the standard has been met and they should give him death. Even then, I think we're rich enough to put the worse in a not uncomfortable prison hospital where all the Christians who pester me with their busy mind-changing bumm-fuzz could work to save their worthless non-existent souls. The rule for salvation would, I suppose have to be, that Bob and Shalom could save all the Christians if they could, and I would have to do the ones that no other religionist could claim. Since I represent Jesus the Man, who came to love and comfort every one, I would be quite busy.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (29938)2/4/1999 2:51:00 PM
From: nihil  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Thank you for your thoughtful thought on the unthinkable. Its our English legal tradition that makes us punish on the act rather than the intention or capacity. When witches were burnt it was not because they soured milk but because they were thought to be able to. The crime we presently punish purely on intention is almost exclusively possession with intent. No drug dealer causes any harm by possession, but only his potential to sell, as long as he sat on his stash or smoked it up himself he could not injure others.
The real crime of intention of futurity is criminal conspiracy -- the mere planning and intention of doing something criminal. You may scathlessly plan to blow up the universe, but take one single preparatory step or overt act, and we will convict you of conspiracy. Of course, if one whose brain is programmed to kill little children or rape women, who buys a razor blades or lollipop has in my judgment (hyperprotective as it is) commited an overt act of a conspiracy with his non-prosecuting analyst to commit the object crime. Were the "scientific evidence of his malignity" known to the statistical criterion prescribed, and I the judge I'd charge the jury that the standard has been met and they should give him death. Even then, I think we're rich enough to put the worse in a not uncomfortable prison hospital where all the Christians who pester me with their busy mind-changing bumm-fuzz could work to save their worthless non-existent souls. The rule for salvation would, I suppose have to be, that Bob and Shalom could save all the Christians if thay could, and I would have to do the ones that no other religionist could claim. Since I represent Jesus the Man, who came to love and comfort every one, I would be quite busy.