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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (30349)	2/6/1999 10:20:00 PM
From: Graystone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I am confused or Are they not Human Why did they not use the rights they have to make the police stop shooting ? Why didn't they just get the bulletproof right and hold it in front of them ? Are you suggesting a bunch of poor workers are going to threaten the Mexican Government ? Which one is Coke by the way ? I have never met him.

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (30349)	2/6/1999 11:31:00 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Respond to of 108807

Right. Move the company to a country where they have no rights and no regulation. No health care or environmental concerns and it's still OK to shoot the workers if they ask for a raise or better working conditions. I heard a story about a union trying to organize a coca-cola plant in mexico. Coke hired some mercenaries to stop it and some protesting workers were shot. But the mexican officials knew who was buttering their bread. Too bad. the above was the original post to which I commented. In a subsequent post I said: Well, 7-8 years ago I did not see the interview, I am sure you do not remember the channel, or interviewer, etc.... No ? seems vague to me... well, I doubt it anyway, since...... But then the story got "twisted" a bit: I thought the idea that workers were shot to break up a strike was not unbelievable because I know it has happened before. In the days of the beginnings of the unions in the good ol' US of A there were also shootings by police and hired thugs of workers. Not a long stretch to get around that idea. As for the voracity of the interviewee I don't know. I have just related what he said, I didn't give him a polygraph. I trust you are meaning veracity of the story rather than voracity... What I meant by "I doubt it" was NOT that the workers did not "get shot at" (As even in the story about Mr. Velazquez details similar cases.) What I meant (and I am sure you understood it): I doubt very much that the Coca Cola company would have been stupid enough to do as you suggest. You see, Coca Cola is not precisely your cash & carry corner store, hence, at some point, they would have had to have "clearance" from Don Fidel to "set up shop" in old Mexico. Bottom line is... I believe Unions, in the end, are nothing else but the parasite of the working men, another "collectivist" moocher, they suck "dues" and in the end the real benefactors are the leaders as history clearly shows. Hoffa more beneficial than Velazquez....? hmm well, I guess there is all kinds of audiences for snake oil, and if there is a demand, market forces always comply, hence the supply for their needs. Making looking forward statements, I guess Unions are all but dead... only they are going via the slow highway... Can't afford the toll road I guess. As for the Coca-Cola Company pursuing your statements, I doubt it, I would hope they have better things to do.... then again, SI proves its usefulness as a window into how the general public clings on to beliefs that are unfounded. Now that is the real reason why there is a sea of difference between the haves and have nots..... Well, it is being interesting to visit this thread, but as I said in my earlier post..... But I do believe in hearing the other side, until nonsense gets in the way... then I just change channels, as life is too short to argue. Time to change the channel now.... click! _________________________ All the leaders of groups tend to be frauds. If they were not, it would be impossible for them to retain the allegiance of their dupes... ~ H L Mencken.