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To: James R. Barrett who wrote (30413)	2/7/1999 4:29:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Jim, your point about many women's reluctance to pursue "heavy-lifting" jobs. Many, not all. I remember being surprised at the number of women I saw working in Jim Walter's coal mine in Alabama about 18 years ago. They had to fight to get in, since a woman in a mine was supposed to bad luck; once they did, they took advantage of the opportunity. A lot of men turn their noses up at dirty blue-collar jobs too. Have you ever noticed who is holding the jackhammer and who is holding the "Go Slow" sign when driving thru road construction? Usually but not always, which I find heartening.

To: James R. Barrett who wrote (30413)	2/7/1999 6:40:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Men just naturally like to lean their fat bellies on an air hammer bursting through asphalt into mother earth. Women like to slink and flaunt a red flag between their loins and show the men (who had never thought of it anyway -- who'd want to love a construction worker -- ) that they are not seasonable.

To: James R. Barrett who wrote (30413)	2/8/1999 2:38:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I worked blue collar for years. My boyfriend at the time reacted to my first blue collar job by calling me a dyke, and suggesting I get myself a dildo. The men on the job were not much better. Over the years, things did get better, men did start to accept women in blue collar workplace better than they had. You are right, the work is hard but the pay is good. Most blue collar workers are introduced to the job by a relative, like a father, uncle or older brother. It's hard to get into an apprenticeship without someone greasing the ropes a little. You can't learn how to do the job if no one trusts you and no one wants to help you. I got started at Exxon Refinery because the federal government made them hire women, but they couldn't make the men treat me ok. I got into printing by being taught by another boyfriend, a much nicer fellow. Maybe more blue collar workers who are men will introduce their female relatives to the work place.