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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Irb who wrote (11376)	2/8/1999 8:51:00 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Perjury is perjury. Obstruction is obstruction. Both are felonies. End of story. Clinton took an oath of office, an oath in a civil depo and an oath before the GJ. He violated them ALL. He should be removed and then indicted. I can wait for the indictment if we need to but I do not like the message it sends by leaving such a scumbag in the WH stinking the place up for another two years. JLA

To: The Irb who wrote (11376)	2/8/1999 9:03:00 AM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 13994

Americans think Clinton's not that bad, when compared to the alternative: Unease over Gore coloring impeachment, polls indicate By Ralph Z. Hallow THE WASHINGTON TIMES The very thought of Vice President Al Gore taking over the Oval Office reinforces some voters' opposition to Senate conviction and removal of President Clinton, pollsters and analysts say. When impeachment by the House became an issue last year, more than a fourth of likely voters bridled at the possibility that Mr. Gore would take over midway through the president's second term. Now, polls show independent voters, who constitute about a third of the electorate in general elections, are split about evenly when asked specifically for their "impression" of Mr. Gore. Slightly more, in fact, now have an unfavorable impression. Independent pollster John Zogby says that what may have been the first clue about a "Gore factor" emerged in his polling of likely voters in early October. He found that 28 percent said they would be "less likely" or "much less likely" to want impeachment when reminded that Mr. Gore would become president if the Senate convicted and removed Mr. Clinton. Voters' doubts most recently about Mr. Gore, even though he has been vice president since 1993, are being quantified through comparisons with two well-known Republican names. One is Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the eldest son of Mr. Clinton's predecessor in the White House. The other is Elizabeth Hanford Dole, the top campaigner for and wife of Bob Dole, the 1996 GOP presidential nominee. Both are considering a run for the GOP presidential nomination in 2000. A Jan. 27-29 Los Angeles Times poll found that only 8 percent of registered voters had an unfavorable impression of Mr. Bush, compared with 39 percent for Mr. Gore. Among independents, the results for Mr. Gore were even more unpleasant: Only 7 percent took a dim view of Mr. Bush, compared with 45 percent for Mr. Gore. Some Republicans see a pro-conviction angle in the Gore findings. Peter Roff, political director of GOPAC, says that Mr. Gore's negatives show he is a factor in public sentiment about the impeachment trial. "So if the Senate trial ends with Clinton's acquittal, Gore will be running from a position of comparative weakness, rather than as an incumbent president who has had 18 months to put to rest questions about the administration and himself," he said. What if Mr. Bush or Mrs. Dole, in fact, faced Mr. Gore on Election Day in November 2000? A Jan. 25-26 Marist College survey of 700 registered voters asked the question and came up with less-than-pleasing news for the Tennessee Democrat. The Marist poll found Mr. Bush beating Mr. Gore 53 percent to 42 percent among all registered voters. The same survey had Mrs. Dole defeating Mr. Gore 50 percent to 44 percent. The Jan. 27-29 Los Angeles Times poll found Mr. Bush trouncing Mr. Gore 57 percent to 39 percent among all registered voters, and 68 percent to 27 percent among independents. The same poll found Mrs. Dole prevailing over Mr. Gore 50 percent to 42 percent among all registered voters and 53 percent to 36 percent among independents. When the Los Angeles Times poll asked people their impression of Mr. Gore, his favorable-unfavorable ratio was 49 percent to 39 percent among registered voters. It was worse, 44 percent to 45 percent, among independents. Not surprisingly, only 17 percent of Republicans viewed Mr. Gore favorably, while 80 percent of Democrats had a favorable view. Meanwhile, voters continue to show far less regard for Mr. Clinton personally than for his job performance, to the mystification and consternation of some of his severest critics. Likely voters are evenly split on their view of Mr. Clinton as a person. While 40 percent are proud, 42 percent are ashamed that he is president, a Jan. 19-21 Zogby survey of 993 likely voters found. Majorities of 62 percent and 55 percent respectively said that the president lied before a grand jury and that doing so is an impeachable offense. Yet only 25 percent want his impeachment trial to end in his removal from the presidency. The polling so far does not make clear how much the Gore factor counts and how much the continuing economic expansion explains Mr. Clinton's job performance approval and the reluctance to see him replaced. While a Jan 28-29 Newsweek poll found 63 percent of adults approving of Mr. Clinton's job performance and 32 percent disapproving, only 28 percent said he should be removed from office, compared with 68 percent who said he should be acquitted or censured and not removed.