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To: Sea Otter who wrote (5050)	2/9/1999 3:00:00 AM
From: Hummer	Respond to of 10081

>> NT? NT sucks, Unix far superior. << Yeah, but it's between consenting adults. Look at most of the folks out there these days who are running sites or are "sysadmins". Got three books and a tee shirt with the little devil on it (cool shirts though, esp. OpenBSDs' latest). Know how you feel about the NT thing though, I got a bit upset over that myself. I've been away from the true faith of Unix for about a decade, but now I'm having a blast just screwing up BSD every way I can. So hey, what do I know ? Always enjoy your posts. Later, I gotta go order two more books and another tee shirt.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (5050)	2/9/1999 8:26:00 AM
From: ynot	Respond to of 10081

Agree on PA, best feature/benefit. I think the telco's, despite the agreements are choking about NT ang degredation of reliability it gives their ntwork offereings,,,hence my sucpicion that a UNIX or JAVA Portico will be THEIR goal..they have extreme competition too...if GM doesn't supply it..someone will.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (5050)	2/9/1999 5:07:00 PM
From: Alex Glavinos	Respond to of 10081

Sea Otter, This should enforce your premise <"It's now a game of partnerships, mindshare, markets and revenue, not necessarily in that order."> Marriage of Internet, wireless still far off By Kevin Maney, USA TODAY The wireless communication industry seems almost frantic to bring the Internet to cell phones, car computers and hand-held devices, but a pile of announcements Monday shows how much has to be sorted out before that happens. As the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association opened its annual convention in New Orleans, heavyweights such as Motorola, Microsoft and Nextel weighed in. Most are going in different directions or directions that don't seem to mesh. "People want the ability to get the Internet in an untethered manner," says Donna Dubinsky, co-creator of the PalmPilot hand-held computer and now CEO of Handspring, which is developing a new hand-held device. "Everyone sees the big picture, but there's a lot of work to be done." She adds: "It's very confusing. The industry is confused, too." Some major announcements: •Motorola and Cisco Systems said they'll work together to create a wireless system based on Internet Protocol (IP), which is the worldwide Internet standard. Today's wireless systems are usually based on proprietary technology. By creating an open, IP-based technology, any company or start-up could create software, content or add-on devices for use on the network, much as anyone can now develop products for the Internet. The system could make voice mail as flexible as e-mail, says Don Listwin, executive vice president of Cisco. Users could send or forward voice mail to anyone in the world. The IP-based system could support devices such as wireless heart monitors that constantly send a patient's data to a physician's computer screen via the Internet. Yet analysts say the Motorola-Cisco deal is vague and that it could be several years before it has an impact. •Microsoft and British Telecom said they'll "develop and market wireless Internet and corporate data services overseas." As BT rolls out data services for cell phones and hand-held computers, it wanted users to see the familiar Microsoft interface, BT's Sohail Qadry says. •Nextel and Netscape will collaborate on a way to let Nextel wireless phones access information on the Internet and get e-mail on the phones' tiny screens. •Spyglass, which makes Web software for devices and appliances, unveiled Prism 2.2. The software promises to address a problem of using wireless devices to connect to the Net: Most Web content is created to be displayed on a full-size computer screen. Prism automatically converts a Web page into a format that would fit on the device accessing it. One thing is sure: The wireless industry is diving into the Internet, believing it can help drive growth in wireless use, while Internet companies see wireless as a new market to exploit. "The convergence of the Internet and mobile (communications) is there to happen," Qadry says. "The Internet will hit the mobile world as it has hit the fixed-line world."