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To: terri acey who wrote (9606)2/9/1999 4:14:00 PM
From: Roy F. Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 40688
 
Terri, Maybe he couldn't spell Yahoo or Raging Bull! Welcome to Ron. Try to explain to Johnny the party is an after PNLK makes it party. I think he still thinks he is in college and can go to a party every weekend. I heard ztect is out shopping for his crown and of course Sunshine and Helene are trying to figure out what to wear. Carole will wear her special nurse's outfit with the magic cape full of PNLK shares. Planter's probably breaking out his dancing shoes too.

Roy



To: terri acey who wrote (9606)2/9/1999 6:02:00 PM
From: Warren A. Wilbur, Jr.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 40688
 
Terri, there was another, even better article ref. GB & CAL. ya, seen
the one on day trading.

See ya



To: terri acey who wrote (9606)2/9/1999 6:38:00 PM
From: Warren A. Wilbur, Jr.  Respond to of 40688
 
BTW, here is the article Terri was talking about (Terri, just take me
out to the parking lot and shoot me ...<G> what's up ? am I not getting a dance with you now that I have one with Lori <G> ???? AS Roy P.M'd me, he had heard that Lori's shares are nice...but I did promise not to touch ...<S>) Anyway:

Day Trading Offers Both
Anguish and Euphoria

Most of the time, I am the nag who uses this column to
advocate trading little, diversifying broadly and looking to the
long term. But at the behest of an editor, for three days last
week I ditched those cherished beliefs and became -- dare I
admit it? -- an online "day trader."

Not for real, mind you. My trades weren't actually executed.
Rather, they were tracked in a phantom account set up with
the cooperation of Suretrade (www.suretrade.com), a Lincoln,
R.I., online brokerage firm owned by Fleet Financial Group.
The idea was to get a feel for the new breed of investors who
use the Internet to rapidly buy and sell stocks.

There was more at stake, however,
than just ego and reputation. Under
the rules I agreed upon with my
editor, I started with a hypothetical
$20,000 and had to make 10
purchases over the three days and
unwind all of the positions before the
third day was over. No shorting of
stocks (betting against them), no
options, no buying on margin. Just
pretending to purchase stocks for
cash and later pretending to sell them.

The stakes? If I made money on paper, The Wall Street
Journal would buy a pair of court-side tickets to a New York
Knicks game for me and my editor. And if I lost? I
ungraciously offered to spring for a couple of nosebleed
seats.

Tuesday. The day starts early and with misgivings. If I fail, I
will look like a fool. If I succeed, I will only encourage those
investors who think they can beat the market. Is it better to
succeed or fail?

It gets worse. As I make coffee, the radio announces that
trading in Standard & Poor's 500-stock futures indicates a
weak opening. The market is heading lower, yet I need
stocks that will go up enough to compensate for my
brokerage commissions.

Forget fundamentals. A low price/earnings multiple, rich
dividend yield and decent earnings growth aren't enough to
propel a stock higher over a day or two. What I need are
anxious buyers.

To find them, I cruise Silicon Investor (www.techstocks.com), a
Web site devoted to stock-market chatter. I can't judge the
quality of the insight posted on the bulletin boards. But the
emotions are palpable. I look for enthusiasm. Lots of it.

Cisco Systems qualifies. Investors are gushing about the
quarterly earnings announcement, due after the market
closes, and about a possible stock split. Dell Computer, too,
is rumored to split. With a few quick computer key strokes, I
buy 50 shares of each.

But the biggest buzz surrounds Perot Systems, an initial
public offering priced at $16 and due to begin trading that
day.

"Should be a great IPO," pants one Silicon Investor
subscriber. "Looking for a nice open." I toss in a market
order for 200 shares.

By the time I get to the office, my Cisco and Dell positions
are underwater, but Perot -- which I had managed to buy at
$33.75 -- trades at $47. I rush to sell, but the shares are at
$42.50 before my order is filled. The next day, the stock will
sprint past $60.

Still, I have a profit of more than $1,700. Feeling giddy, I toy
with doubling up on my Cisco position but decide against it.
The stock looks weak.

In truth, the entire market is weak. The Dow Jones Industrial
Average plunges 140 points, then starts to rise. How to ride
the rally? I buy some SPDRs, or Standard & Poor's
Depositary Receipts that track the S&P 500. Adrenaline
pumps as the market climbs. Overall, I have a $1,500 gain at
the market close. Not bad for a day when the Dow
industrials were off 72 points.

Declare victory and go home? There's still one last treat,
Cisco's earnings announcement. True to promise, the
computer-networking company comes in with earnings per
share that are a penny above what analysts had expected.

But my sense of triumph is crushed along with the stock,
which falls in afterhours trading. Apparently, to really impress
investors, Cisco needed to beat expectations by at least two
pennies. So much for chatter on the Web. I leave the office,
feeling queasy.

Wednesday. The S&P 500 futures are weak again. That
augurs badly for my SPDRs. Meanwhile, Cisco is in for a
rough day, and I can't imagine why I ever bought Dell.

I tap in an order to Suretrade to sell the SPDRs and vow to
dump Cisco and Dell when I get to the office. But before I
leave home, the radio reports a deal between Yahoo! and
Gateway to allow gateway.net subscribers to create
personalized Web pages. I put in an order for 10 Yahoo
shares.

Once in the office, I find Cisco is down and Yahoo is up. I
bail out of both. My Cisco debacle costs me more than
$300, but Yahoo made me a quick $110.

The market starts moving higher, and discount brokers
offering online trading are hot. I hastily buy 100 shares of
E*Trade Group, which hasn't yet caught fire like Ameritrade
Holding, Siebert Financial and others.

Later, I discover why. E*Trade is in the midst of a computer
glitch, which prevents some customers from trading. Instead
of joining the rally, E*Trade slumps.

What to do? I can't bring myself to sell amid the panic and
take my E*Trade loss, so I seek solace in retailer
Perfumania. The stock had been buffeted by bulls and bears
and is a hot topic among Silicon Investor groupies. With the
stock currently down, I figure the bulls will drive it back up.

I also buy 200 CompUSA shares at $12.88. The computer
retailer will announce earnings after the close, and the recent
strength of the stock -- and the chatter of the bulletin-board
crowd -- suggests good things are in store. "I just got back
from CompUSA ... and bought another 1,000 shares right
away," raves one Silicon Investor subscriber.

By Wednesday afternoon, the Dow industrials are soaring,
my stocks are sputtering, and my eyes ache from staring at
the computer screen. This day-trading stuff is getting old.
Feeling drained, I dump Perfumania at a tiny profit and
unwind my Dell at a small loss.

Meanwhile, I cling to E*Trade and CompUSA. Maybe
investors will forget about E*Trade's problems by Thursday.
Maybe CompUSA will beat analysts' expectations.
Wednesday, I gave back $300 of Tuesday's profit. I need
some good news.

Thursday. I help my son get dressed while scanning the
messages posted on Silicon Investor. Folks are drooling over
CompUSA, which came in with earnings per share that were
a penny above what analysts were predicting. In between
tying Henry's shoes, I punch in an order to Suretrade for
another 300 shares.

It looks like my kind of day. I reach the office to find
CompUSA had gained 50 cents and E*Trade is up more
than $4. When CompUSA hits $14, I unload 200 shares.
But I hang onto the other 300 shares, hoping for a little more.
I also keep my E*Trade, looking for it to hit $60. It had been
there briefly and I don't want to sell until it gets there again.

Maybe, after the shellacking of the past few days, all
technology stocks are due for a rebound. I buy a special
breed of SPDRs that tracks the technology sector.

Too greedy. The market falls back, CompUSA retreats, and
E*Trade crumbles as news spreads of more computer
glitches. I hang on as the entire market tumbles and then
rallies. CompUSA gets back up to $14 and I gratefully
unload my 300 shares.

That leaves me with just E*Trade and my technology
SPDRs. When to sell? I have to unload before the trading
day's end, which is only hours away.

The market roars back in the afternoon, but technology
stocks don't budge. Then the market falls. This time,
technology stocks join in. I throw in the towel and dump my
final two positions at a loss.

The bottom line? On a hypothetical basis, after forking over
$159 in commissions to Suretrade, I made $1,161 over three
days -- while the S&P 500 slipped 2% and the
technology-heavy Nasdaq Composite Index was down 4%.

But all of my profit and more was accounted for by a single
lucky hit with Perot -- and I would have made even more if I
hadn't been so quick to sell. Frankly, it's enough to make you
want a beer. I'll be sure to get it at the game.


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