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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: N who wrote (33055)	2/9/1999 5:44:00 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

I am curious about Christopher Hitchen's affidavit on Blumenthal I am curious as to whether Hitchen's affidavit was planned before calling Blumenthal to testify. After all he seemed a pretty strange witness at the time. I smell another perjury trap on minor, periferal matters. TP

To: N who wrote (33055)	2/9/1999 5:49:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<I feel values are best developed through one's education, parents, experience and are not to be legislated, or in this case,... well we would probably argue here as I see it. >> This is the popular view. Interesting what happened to the values in the southern US when we legislated an abolution to slavery. The children, grand children, great grand children etc. of slave owners grew up not supporting slavery. Values are developed through all the channels you are suggesting as well. That is why all the politicians pushing their agenda are fighting to determine what will and will not be in the educational curriculums and funded for various institutional efforts and causes. Of course all that has to go through a legislative process. No body ever accused you of being naive did they?

To: N who wrote (33055)	2/10/1999 12:31:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 67261

Marriage is a legal as well as a personal relationship, which is the basis for the use of the term "illicit" for extra- marital affairs. Although most people would acknowledge mitigating factors in various "affairs of the heart", it is not exactly repressive to think that a certain degree of discipline in this area, predicated upon the value of long term commitment and a sense of honor, should be expected. The society at large is actually fairly tolerant, if the offense is not egregious. In the Lewinsky matter, I was referring to a common perception that such unequal relationships are inappropriate, regardless of consent, because of the implicit power to reward and punish. Certainly, that at least made the kind of relationship he had a legitimate object of inquiry. In campuses around the country, professors can be dismissed for having an affair with one of their students, regardless of consent, and corporate managers are at least put on the hot seat, and often penalized. The case against perjury, which I believe to be specious, is technical, and does not address the over- all attempt to subvert the legal proceeding. It is clear enough that he essentially lied under oath, whether or not it is perjury. For a criminal conviction, that might not be enough, but for removal, given his obligation to uphold the law, especially as the chief magistrate, I think it sufficient. I like your comment on the air strikes, by the way. Most Republicans fell into line because they believed that strong action was deserved in each case, but the timing was highly suspect, and the efficacy of the particular strikes was dubious. It would be terrible if people lost their lives for a public relations stunt.....