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To: John Mansfield who wrote (27975)2/10/1999 5:57:00 PM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116753
 
<< Would you agree that in effect I have created, at this point, 100 oz of gold that doesn't exist? Not only that but I have 10 other friends that I do the same thing.>>

Billy Saul Estes went to a rather nice Federal (white collar) Pen. for these very same actions many years ago, except he was getting loans on liquid fertilizer trailers, oh, he did paint different serial numbers
on each side of the trailer....

When I met him he was on his "weekend off". Complained about only a 9 hole course.



To: John Mansfield who wrote (27975)2/10/1999 10:54:00 PM
From: Giraffe  Respond to of 116753
 
>>Great you say, off to the bank and you borrow $30,000 with my 100 oz for collateral. But the only thing you have is an agreement from me to you to borrow my gold to be given back in a year.<<

Please introduce me to the bank manager who is willing to accept $30,000 of debt as collateral on a $30,000 loan. (VBG)

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