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Politics : Clinton Survey "Resign" Yes or NO -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: del clark who wrote (679)	2/10/1999 10:00:00 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 697

<<If the case had of centered around something illegal like a burglary then things may have been different as long as they could come up with more evidence than was presented. What happened to filegate or whitewater anyway? >> It DID center around something illegal. The President did lie under oath and temporarily changed the outcome of a woman's civil suit to her detriment. Thanks to his being caught, she received 850,000 grand as a settlement. I know you don't think it's proven that he lied under oath, but just to take this full circle I'd like to point out to you todays Poll results from CBS. According to my T.V. the latest CBS poll says 84% of those polled believe the President is GUILTY of both PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. Hey, like I said, I didn't lie in my post- I WAS being sarcastic when I "admitted" I lied. I said only 70%. At the same time most of that same 84% don't believe he should be removed. I agree with you about the general morality of Americans. Things change. Yet still they care at least a little. I don't like what he did with a young immature intern- it shows a lot about his character, and Polls reflect that, too. Democrats one and all disparage him for it. --but as quitely as possible. They would not be so quiet if Clinton were Bush, for instance. The American public you can be sure, realizes this, views it as Democratic hypocrisy, whether you do or not. JMHO Fact is, any man who disparages as Clinton has, the women from whom he's tried successfully or unsuccessfully to get a little, is viewed very badly by the American people and rightfully so. For all the lies the average American is aware some friend has told over an affair, when a man is caught red-handed as Clinton has been, he generally just fesses up. He no longer tries to claim he said "true things" while he was busy covering it up- it doesn't wash and he isn't so delusional as to think he can get away with such a claims. I maintain that those 84% who think he is guilty would NOT feel terribly sorry for Clinton nor seriously punish Republicans were Clinton actually removed. But, thanks to those partisan Democrats whose who have voted party line on this issue to a far greater extent than Republicans have, he won't be removed and I'll never see my point proven or disproven.

To: del clark who wrote (679)	2/10/1999 10:37:00 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 697

What happened to Filegate and Whitewater? Evidence indicates records were destroyed. How about Cattlegate? Hey, Hillary learned from her participation in the prosecution of Nixon- records are GONE where they would normally exist still. She is on record, on tape, totally contradicting herself concerning the 100,000 grand she made in cattle futures. She said she traded alone using the "Wall Street Journal" and had no help from anyone. Then she said she got advice to help her. Finally she said she had no knowledge of the trades what-so-ever- they were totally in the hands of others. ABC news played these clips back to back to back. The firm she traded with was later busted for shuffling trades to favored accounts. But records are gone. People are silent. She'll never explain her own words on the matter satisfactorily to anyone who wants to bring it up. If you've an open mind, you know what the odds are that this "gate" was a payoff for something hubby did for Tyson Chicken. NO smoking guns- just simple honest review of the known facts show these two to be as dishonest as they come. Bottom line is, in the real world, people have valid reasons for wanting Clinton removed- it's not just something false borne of pre-existing hatred. Your estimation of Republican motives has some truth, but also LARGE grains of salt in it. VERY large.