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To: Enigma who wrote (1245)	2/11/1999 9:16:00 PM
From: Henry Volquardsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3536

DoubleD I believe Doroteo had slipped in a little Latin sarcasm.

To: Enigma who wrote (1245)	2/11/1999 9:58:00 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3536

A strange assertion. Tell that to the Western Europeans. Indeed.... because of the great success of the collectivist system. No doubt. Tell it to the Europeans ? They seem to be doing a pretty good job already, particularly in the unemployment department. I don't think they need my help. What was wrong with that? Were only westerers allowed to assist? I never said there was anything "wrong"... except that my "assertions" were of events that never really happened, at least not successfully. Thanks [again] to the "success" of the collectivist system.... In other words.... I was being sarcastic about said "success". You either did not understand it, or simply you are attempting to make a case out of thin air... I believe a Collectivist practice. Spend what you do not have. How you say? "deficit spending" Please explain - didn't think East German could buy much of anything.. Preceisely. I rest my case. No further questions your Honor. ______________ Colin Chapman or Charlie Chaplin? Mr. Chaplin an actor.... as Mr. Keynes, an "Artiste" of illusion. Mr. Chapman: An engineer, and innovator, a true genius. ddavid.com Colin Chapman was the acknowledged master among F1 constructors at getting the most number victories out of the least amount of aluminum, steel, plastic and carbon-fibre. If his cars did not always inspire his drivers with confidence, they did know that when he got it right they could be unbeatable. As a result he ranks second only to Ferrari in the pantheon of great race car builders. Although his early cars were based on the space frame chassis (done up, as usual, better than the original), the chassis development that he is most famous for was the full monocoque that made its debut in the Lotus 25. The 25 was the first of Chapman's F1 world-beaters and carried Jim Clark to his 1963 championship. It was to be followed in due course by, among others, the 49, (Jochen Rindt), the 72, (Emerson Fittipaldi), and the 79. The 49, a winner its first time out, popularized the engine as a stressed chassis member, and was Chapman's masterpiece and the epitome of his insistence on extreme economy of design; the 72 sported novel features such as a wedge shape, torsion bar springing and inboard brakes; and the 79 was the pinnacle of ground effects, an ingenious madness of which Chapman was, again, a major innovator.