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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24201)	2/11/1999 10:46:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 39621

The Babylonian Talmud is the central authoritative source for modern Judaism. N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbis authority: "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38). Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchiks knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law. The rabbis credentials are predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. All other studies are clearly secondary. Britains Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else." The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because it nullified Biblical teachings.

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24201)	2/11/1999 10:46:00 PM
From: DLL	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

The Judaism that Yeshua practiced was Biblical Judaism. It is the style of worship I enjoy. It brings me closer to my Messiah. I am not interested in the Koran, Talmud, Book of Mormon, Bagavad Ghita or any other man made trash. Emile should read the Torah instead of his obvious study of Mien Kampf. Shalom - DLL

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (24201)	2/11/1999 10:55:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 39621

Rabbi Frydland confirms that the Talmud is modern Judaism's most sacred cultural possession. Modern Judaism blieves the Talmud was given to the rabbis by God himself. " Even non believing Jews do not focus on the Talmud....Their HOLY BOOK IS THE TORAH......"Alan Markoff." An interesting point of view, Alan, but wrong. Former Rabbi Frydland went throuh rabbinical training in the twentienth century and found the Babylonian Talmud to be the central doctrinal book used to train modern rabbis. Don't you think RAbbi Frydland should have the last word on this matter since he went through rabbinical formation himself. Here are former Rabbi Frydland's own words: Ch 5, page 51: "In these early years I had few contacts of any sort with Christianity. At about this time I learned the stories Of Jesus from the Jewish point of view. They are given in the infamous book of legends composed in the Middle ages and entitled Toledot Yeshua (The History of Jesus). Some of the material is already embodied in the Talmud: that Jesus was born an illegitimate child and He forced Mary His mother to admit it; how He learned sorcery in Egypt; how He made Himself fly up into the sky by sewing the ineffable name of Jehovah into the skin of his leg, but a famous rabbi did the same and brought Jesus down." Page 34 "The method of education in the yeshiva differed little from the previous schools, but we had longer hours of study..... The studies were now only talmudic. The teachers recited the lecture in the Mishna(the traditions) and the Gemara(the commentaries) the two parts of the Babylonian Talmud....We repeated and discussed the lecture after the teacher, and then we studied more of the Talmud by ourselves. Thus in the yeshiva, the Talmud reigned supreme. The Old Testament Bible could be used only for reference". P. 34,35 "I had no contacts with Christianity at all. On the way to school we passed a Roman Catholic church and a Russian Orthodox church, and we spat,, pronouncing the words found in deuteronomy 7:26, "thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing." I said it halfheartedly because of my previous favorable contact with Christianity and because some questions were beginning to creep into my mind. Why should we say such horrible words? The people looked so pious, and they never bothered us. ? "As I continued studying the Talmud, I came to a passage that told of a cruel punishment for that Sinner of Israel, meaning Jesus. For one sin of deriding the rabbis, He was punished forever and ever with cruelty as to be "judged in boiling excrement." I did not like this story at all. Did it really mean what it said? did not I also have doubts about the rabbis' claims (talmudic claims) that their teachings were given to Moses on Mount Sinai? What then would my punishment be? It was many years before I dared to proclaim these doubts openly." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- These are clear words from a former rabbinical student who experienced first hand the antichristians teachings of the Talmud. Of particular interest is the Toledot Yeshua(the history of Jesus) which exposes young rabbinical students to talmudic myths and fables about Jesus rather than the truthful and Holy Spirit inspired Gospels. Moder Judaism considers the Babylonian Talmud its most important cultural possession. Emile Next