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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (46744)2/12/1999 11:49:00 AM
From: Exacctnt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
Skeeter, The thing about stock options is that at the grant date, the grant price of the option is the market price. The option isn't a gift of stock, that is, the employee will have to pay the company in cash (in most cases) the value of the stock as of grant date at the grant price when he exercises. So how would you expense the granting of options if the company will receive cash from the employee that equals the market value of the stock at the grant date? Would you expense just the appreciation in price over the grant price?

Any company that buys back stock and holds it as Treasury stock in a quantity that comes close to the number of outstanding option shares doesn't have an expense because theoretically they will be paid back whatever they outlayed in buybacks when the employee exercises the option. Except that there may be a cost associated with holding the stock, but that may be offset by tax credits given to the company.

I know, I know, that this isn't happening in the current environment. However, just how would you determine the amount that would be expensed without factoring in the number of shares being held as Treasury stock?

Just expensing options isn't as easy as it sounds.

Regards,
Bob



To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (46744)2/12/1999 9:54:00 PM
From: Richard Gibbons  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
This is an interesting idea, but doesn't it conflict with the idea of money being "real". (Yeah, I know, money stopped being real on income statements about 5000 points back in this bubble. :) )

What I'm getting at is that the option grants are already being shown in the way the shares are diluted when the options are exercised.

I like the idea, but how would you actually implement it?

Richard