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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Andrew Martin who wrote (11593)2/12/1999 4:59:00 PM
From: Buddy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
Perhaps it simplys says that the house managers and Ken Starr were so blinded by partisan animous that they failed to present a good case?



To: Andrew Martin who wrote (11593)2/12/1999 6:23:00 PM
From: j g cordes  Respond to of 13994
 
That's what Byrd said, but Byrd voted not to impeach. Its a tough problem, work on it a little more and you'll understand it. The Senate is not a jury, they are more like a body of judges each charged with weighing and deciding their individual opinions of guilt. Guilt for impeachment is not only based on there being a crime, or on a crime having been committed, but on it it rising or falling below an impeachable level. They are also charged with weighing the consequence of removal of the person in office, the circumstance and weight of the charge as it relates to being a threat to the Constitution and to the country. So when you heard one Senator vote no or yes on each count, they were voting not on the charge but to remove or not remove the President as a political act.

You assume that because there is a crime it equals impeachment. That's not the way it works, nor is it a breach of faith with the intent of the Constitution. I will say this poorly... the presidency is above the crime, while the president is not.

In any case, this is tired, worn to dogmatic polarization.. its time for this thread to argue about someting else. How about the Italian judgement on jeans making rape impossible.. that was a stupid decision.




To: Andrew Martin who wrote (11593)2/13/1999 4:46:00 PM
From: art slott  Respond to of 13994
 
Senator Byrd changes his mind every day. The fact is the evidence presented by the House did not even come close to proving guilt. The evidence was refuted in total.
The anti Clintons don't seem to care about that. Most of them think he was on trial for what he said in public.