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To: ztect who wrote (9819)2/13/1999 1:18:00 AM
From: Warren A. Wilbur, Jr.  Respond to of 40688
 
Ya, Z , seen this D&B today, here is another one with another perspective on Net Stocks frenzy:

The Price Tag on You Is
What Drives Net Stocks

Stewart Alsop
Reporter Associate: Jane Hodges

How much are you worth? This is a pretty
cosmic question. In our most insecure
moments, many of us may ponder this
question. Lawyers on a liability case may
argue interminably over the precise
calculation of an individual's worth. But
on the World Wide Web, the calculation is
the meaning of life itself.

That's because Wall
Street has lost its
mind and now values
companies in a way
that cannot be
justified by any
calculation previously known to man or
accountant. The basis for that valuation?
Something called the lifetime value of the
customer: you.

Recently Yahoo purchased GeoCities,
using shares of stock that were worth
more than $5 billion; before the deal
GeoCities already had a healthy market
cap of around $3 billion. All this for a
company that had a little more than $18
million in revenue in its last fiscal year
and that lost more than $19 million.

One of my partners suggested, on hearing
this news, that perhaps we should forget
about Ebitda (Earnings Before Interest,
Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization) as
a measure of a company's success and
substitute EBE (Earnings Before
Expenses). He's not alone in trying to
understand how to make sense of a
company that loses progressively more
money each quarter, yet is rewarded with
higher and higher share prices.

People who have spent their entire lives
in the financial services business are
feeling confused. How the heck can
anyone, even someone who has never
bought or sold stock before, value
companies this highly? You can go on for
days about how inflated Internet values
are. The top three Net companies are
America Online, Yahoo, and Amazon.com.
(I'm an AOL shareholder.) As I write,
AOL's market cap is about $80 billion; it
has $3.3 billion in revenue for the past 12
months, and $252 million in earnings. Its
price/earnings ratio is nearly 400. Yahoo
is worth about $35 billion, with $200
million in revenue and just $26 million in
profits. Its P/E is around 1,500.
Amazon.com is worth about $20 billion,
with $610 million in revenue and $125
million in losses. Its P/E is infinite,
because it doesn't have earnings. For a
moment there, Excite seemed a failure,
since it was worth just $5 billion--less
than a sixth of Yahoo's market cap,
despite the fact that it's the No. 2 portal,
with $154 million in annual revenues.
Fortunately, @Home saved it by offering
to buy it for a significant premium.

Despite feeling unbridled wonderment at
these valuations, the logical person still
wants to establish a rational way to
differentiate between good companies
and bad. That's where the value of your
life comes in. I actually understand this
concept, because I spent nearly 20 years
in the magazine business, where it is a
crucial metric of success. Magazine
publishers need to figure out how much
they can afford to spend to get new
people to buy subscriptions. The price
they charge never fully covers their
costs. But new subscriptions lead to two
other sources of revenue, renewal
subscriptions and advertising
revenue--and that's where the profits
are. In most magazine businesses,
subscribers tend to stick to a magazine
for somewhere between three and five
years. (After so long in the business, I
find myself canceling subscriptions when
my lifetime value expires, just on
principle.) So the magazine multiplies the
time it can expect you to stick with the
publication--say four years--times the
amount of money it can expect from you
each year during that time--say, $20 for
a renewal plus another $80 for
advertising--and arrives at your lifetime
value, $400. As long as it sells a new
subscription for less than the net present
value of that $400, it makes money on a
new subscriber.

The lifetime value of a customer--LTV for
short--has now become the underlying
yardstick for valuing Net stocks. I first
considered this logic when I wrote a
column about America Online, in which I
promised to buy 100 shares of the stock
and hold them until 2000. LTV seems to
apply to AOL's business: The company
has 15 million customers, most of whom
pay $22 a month. As the company adds
subscribers, it can charge higher rates to
advertisers and licensees. I suspect that
new AOL customers don't last more than
two years on average. If I'm right, the
subscription revenue alone would be
$528, and the advertising and licensing
revenue could easily be another $300 or
so. I'm making this up, rather than doing
the real work of dissecting AOL's income
statement, but the point is that you can
justify a pretty hefty investment in
acquiring new customers if you think you
can generate $700 or $800 from each in
two years.

That's what LTV means to someone inside
AOL trying to decide whether it's
worthwhile to invest in a marketing
campaign. But Wall Street, using the
same measure, now values an AOL
customer at about $5,300 (divide the
market value of the company by the
number of subscribers). That dollar figure
has been rising steadily as the increase in
AOL's market value has outstripped its
growth in customers. In comparison with
other Net companies, this doesn't look
completely insane, especially if you
believe that AOL can persuade customers
to stick with the service longer.

It gets flakier when you look at other
companies. Yahoo is said to have more
than 35 million registered users. Given its
market value of $35 billion, Wall Street is
valuing its customers at $1,000 each.
(Yahoo must be thinking along the same
lines, because it paid what it thought
would be about $3.5 billion for GeoCities,
which has 3.5 million registered users,
before Wall Street pushed Yahoo's shares
even higher.) But Yahoo customers pay
no subscription fee. This LTV calculation
is based almost entirely on advertising
revenue, with some extra thrown in for
expected transaction fees on various
forms of e-commerce. But what exactly is
Yahoo's relationship to its nonpaying
customers? I'm not sure, and I'm one of
them. I use my.yahoo.com as the default
home page in my Web browser to check
stock prices and news. And I use Yahoo
to search the Web. That's about it. I
don't pay Yahoo any money, and I don't
buy anything from it. I only occasionally
look at ads on its site. I don't know how
much I'm worth, but it sure doesn't feel
like $1,000!

Amazon.com is trickier still. The company
claims more than six million registered
customers, and 64% of the company's
sales are from repeat buyers. You have
to make a lot of assumptions, but assume
that the average customer spends $45
per order (I usually spend about $24) and
buys from Amazon four times a year (for
me, that's more like once or twice a
month). If that's the case, the average
customer produces $180 per year (I
actually spent $428.62 in 19
transactions). If you can hold on to that
customer for four years, he's worth $720.
But a retailer needs to buy the stuff it
sells, so you really need to reduce that
revenue number to the gross margin on
the products sold, or about 22% for
Amazon.com. That would imply a lifetime
value of $160 or so. But Wall Street
values Amazon's six million customers at
more than $3,000 each!

I may be missing something, but I don't
think our lives are worth that much. I
know it's a new paradigm and all, but I
guess I'm just too much of an old
curmudgeon to think we are that
valuable.



To: ztect who wrote (9819)2/13/1999 1:29:00 AM
From: BishopsChild  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 40688
 
are you a the salesman for Fortune magazine on the threads....
what's on page 32......?



To: ztect who wrote (9819)2/13/1999 1:22:00 PM
From: GreenKeeper  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 40688
 
<<Immense Implications Regarding PNLK partner.......AND..for ProNetLink>>

Is D&B fer us or agin us?

I hope co-sponsorship of the IBE with PNL portends a great working relationship, because DB's alliance with SAP and others could be formidable, otherwise.

Of course, any associative tie-in would indeed be immense! This may indicate more collaboration than competition on the horizon.

I like our odds. I floated my 1.25 bobber out there and caught some more PNL shares yesterday.

Thanks for the article.

GreenKeeper



To: ztect who wrote (9819)2/13/1999 1:56:00 PM
From: jwk  Respond to of 40688
 
Z -- very nice find with the Fortune article. Just a bit over two months until PNLK's name and logo is featured right along with D&B's on every piece of information produced for the IBE expo...AS ONE OF THREE PRINCIPLE SPONSORS.

I like it.
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