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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Machaon who wrote (11648)	2/13/1999 1:01:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

Robert, What kind of hypocrite are you? Did you state in a previous post that you did not believe in God? Instead, you professed a belief in NATURE???? Yet, you quote religious philosophy while professing a distinct contempt for religious fundamentalism. Yes, are you mixed up and confused???? Now, you state that you were once a registered Republican. How can you now be so blind? Or, are you really just schizophrenic???? Do you remember what you post from one post to the next??? Robert, are you mentally unstable??? Btw, are you still working for Eastern Airlines as per your profile? Did you forget that they have been out of business for 15 years????

To: Machaon who wrote (11648)	2/13/1999 10:25:00 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 13994

<<You are extremely opposed to abortion, but when questioned about your basic beliefs you answer me with a barrage of insults and call me your enemy.>> I have never said that I am extremely opposed to abortion. I have many times strongly to objected people like you, who use it as a ploy to to create fear in the hearts of the citizenry and who promote its callous application and defend the institution of abortion to further the left wing political platform. <<Most religious faith is based on a belief system. When we deal with faith, we don't deal with science or fact, we deal with faith that what has been preached for thousands of years, and what is in the bible is, indeed, the word of God.>> Faith in God as the authority on what is good vs evil is important. We, the people who worship God, do not separate the sciences of studing God's creation from our faith in God. That is your falacy and source of pride. Of the many snearing remarks you have directed at the religions of the people who post on this board, I can't remember any of them that were directed at understanding the foundations of religion that those people base their principles of life and living. As in the remark you just posted to me in which you say we are dealing with thousands of years of bible preaching. 1) I am a Muslim 2)I am a man willing to deal with the issue and the word of God as it stands in 1999. <<This is what scares me about religious fundamentalism, and it is one of the reasons I am so supportive of President Clinton and the Democratic Party.>> Religious belief is fundamental to a persons purpose in life. Some people adhere to a religion as a geopolitical matter of membership. Some people consider their faith and purpose for living a universal and timeless choice that has been presented and available to the hearts of all human beings at all times. You go right ahead and choose the bonds of clinton and the democratic party as a reaction to your fear of Gods commandments. On judgement day do you expect to see clinton lying at the foot of the All knowing and all powerful in your defense. The only information I have from Islamic literature is that God commands an Angel to breath the human soul into the fetus at the end of the first trimester. My wife and I agreed that an abortion was not a consideration after that point. What the condition of that soul is prior to or after that point I have no knowledge of. We know that each human struggles for his own soul and is ultimately responsible for it on judgement day. <<If a fetal soul or a baby soul does not go to Heaven, then what are the alternatives? >> There are only two alternatives that I know. There are many issues that are not knowable to humans and that are foolish to debate. This is one of them. The only thing I do believe is that it is in the hands of the most just and merciful God. <<I await your answer and your next barrage of hateful insults.>> Robert, I don't believe in conversion. I am commanded to give you information on Islam if you are open too it. If you are seeking the truth and I have not messed up the message in my delivery of it this is enough. Whether or not Allah plants the seed for you choose to follow the message of Allah is his will. I am forbidden from giving some one like you have access to a Quran. I am forbidden from giving any kind of coersion for you to accept Islam for your self. If you are interested in the principles of the religion I will tell you what they are. When you argue or debate the truth of Gods word I am commanded to say "you are going to believe what you believe and I am going to continue to believe in Islam" and argue the point no further. I have never debated my religion with you. Your positions on this thread have made it abundantly clear that you are not a believer. I am more than suspicious when you push to have religious principle woven into your arguements. I would like to compile a barrage of insults but its been a long week and I'm weary of such. I hope you'll give me a rain check for after I've rested. I have been truthful to you regarding my thinking on the issues presented on this board and have not hidden my feelings about you personally. Some people send PMs back and forth expressing their hatred for you and pretend to be your friend on this thread. I speak to you the same way I speak of you. your enemy, brees