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To: D PARKER who wrote (9949)	2/14/1999 11:59:00 AM
From: garz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 40688

lol...Citizen Dave...more brains...then bleeding hearts! Government ain't no business..if so they would have gone Charter 13 long ago

To: D PARKER who wrote (9949)	2/14/1999 4:50:00 PM
From: ztect	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 40688

D.... System of campaign finance is to reduce privilege and influence of the few ...the oligarchy and plutocrats...over the many by reducing the benefits that are the by products of patronage and current system of campaign finance.. System of distribution isn't one of "wealth"...system is one of distribution of taxed income on the basis of increased democratic participation induced by allocation of taxes based upon proportional representation... Socialistic??? No... But are you suggesting anarchy or extreme Libertarianism instead? Fair?....Certainly fairer than a current system of taxation where actual tax rates of wealthy individuals don't in any way come close to the purported tax brackets, because of deductions that only people few can deduct.....More appropriate means of allocation than a current system based on back room deals, seniority, and serving out "pork".... Again...I am not sure what you read... Now regarding your boy "TJ"...Unless you don't believe racism and adultery begetting illegitimate children...is not only wrong but hypocritical....I'd suggest the "past" isn't as rosy and nostalgic as you'd like to believe and others to believe as well.....Read items below and you'll see your boy Thomas had a few flaws of his own (Now where was the clown prince himself- Sam Donaldson- when you needed him back then?). Also ask the Cherokee Tribe how noble America was during and after the trail of tears.... Or, in other words,....please take of your rose colored glasses.. Read below.... ===================================== shamema.com Bill Jefferson Clinton vs. Thomas Jefferson "The current affair involving William Jefferson Clinton and Monica Lewinsky is nothing new in the White House. Many presidents were well known to have had mistresses. President Thomas Jefferson fathered two children by his mistress, Sally Hemings, while he was living in the White House. On April 17, 1804, Maria Jefferson, the daughter of Thomas Jefferson by his deceased wife, Martha Wayles, died. Thomas Jefferson went to Monticello to attend the funeral, which was held two days later. Sally was waiting for him there. On January 19, 1805, exactly nine months later to the day of the funeral, Sally Hemings gave birth to the fourth of her five children by Thomas Jefferson. Obviously, the President and his mistress had decided to make up for the child who had just died. Thomas Jefferson named his newborn son Madison, after his vice-president, James Madison. Another child, Eston, was born on May 21, 1808, while Jefferson was still president. Thomas Jefferson named his son Eston after the name of his traditional family home in England. Thomas Jefferson never denied his relationship with Sally Hemings. After he died, the Virginia State Legislature voted a special dispensation for her in recognition of the well known fact that she had been the President's mistress. Only Sally and her sons, Madison and Eston, were allowed to stay behind at Montecello. All of the other of the 187 slaves were disbursed. Jefferson's three older children by Sally had previously been freed. Yet, self proclaimed "defenders" of Thomas Jefferson still try to claim that no such relationship existed, in spite of the overwhelming evidence that it did exist. They try to blame these five children on nephews who were no longer living at Montecello when most of the children were born...." Thomas Jefferson left behind detailed records of his relations with his slaves, which provide overwhelming evidence of the nature of his relations with Sally Hemings. [Plus now their is DNA evidence, since the DNA of Jefferson's and Hemming's descendents MATCH] ========================== In a reply to questionnaire from the Secretary to the French Legation regarding the subject of blacks: "...An animal whose body is at rest, and who does not reflect, must be disposed to sleep of course. Comparing them [black people] by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me that in memory they are equal to whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they [blacks] are dull, tasteless, and anomalous...We will consider them here, on the same stage with whites, and where the facts are not apocryphal on which a judgement is to be formed...." Thomas Jefferson ===================== Citizen Ztect