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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (40092)2/14/1999 7:21:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 
February 15, 1999

Liquidation of China's Gitic Threatens
Goldman Sachs Stake in Shenzhen Firm

By HENNY SENDER
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

HONG KONG -- The bankruptcy of Guangdong International Trust &
Investment Corp. is causing an unexpected headache for Goldman, Sachs &
Co.

The U.S. investment bank's stake in a Shenzhen insurance company, with an
estimated value of at least $50 million, is in a trust administered by Gitic and
there's a chance the shares will be counted among Gitic's assets and then
liquidated, say lawyers familiar with the issue.

Goldman says it isn't worried, but the issue underscores just how uncertain
and underdeveloped Chinese law is.

Gitic administers a trust created for shares that Goldman acquired in Ping An
Insurance Co. several years ago. Trusts are standard contractual fare under
Western common law, but aren't mentioned in Chinese law. Without a trust
law, Goldman has no legal protection against seeing its shares in Ping An
distributed to Gitic's creditors.

Gray Areas

But Goldman says it's protected in other ways. "We have received assurance
from Beijing," says Henry Cornell, the partner in Hong Kong in charge of
Goldman's private-investment business. "We have no problems with Gitic or
Gitic's estate," he adds.

In China's shifting legal environment, however, it is hard to know how much
such an assurance is worth, say lawyers familiar with the issue; legal decisions
are often a matter of administrative fiat rather than black-and-white rules. "If
the party to the trust arrangement goes down the tubes, then what happens?"
asks one lawyer, adding that Goldman does "have some risk."

Neither China's securities laws nor its bankruptcy rules touch upon such
technical issues. There are further complications as well. Until last November,
the People's Bank of China was in charge of insurance matters and it was the
bank that signed off on Goldman's original arrangement with Gitic. But now,
a new, untried entity, the China Insurance Regulatory Commission, oversees
this sector.

Goldman acquired its stake in Ping An as part of a joint investment with
Morgan Stanley Dean Witter; each took about 5%, valued at about $25 million
each. Today, Goldman's stake may be valued at between $50 million and $60
million, according to estimates from other investors, because of some
adjustments and a huge expansion in the insurer's business. Goldman declines
to comment on this.

Muddied Waters

Since foreign firms weren't normally permitted to directly invest in insurance
companies, Goldman and Morgan Stanley each had to come up with special
arrangements. And they had to get government approval for what was then
regarded as an exceptional case; at the time, other countries were pressing
China to open more of its financial sector to foreigners.

Goldman decided to set up the trust with Gitic; Morgan Stanley opted for a
more complicated legal structure that didn't involve a trust, according to Paul
Thiel, who was in charge of Morgan Stanley Capital Partners in Hong Kong
and responsible for the firm's investment in Ping An.

Further muddying the waters is Goldman's selection in December as the
financial adviser to another troubled entity in Guangdong, Guangdong
Enterprises (Holdings) Ltd. Goldman was chosen by Guangdong's executive
vice governor, Wang Qishan, an admirer of the firm since it handled the
listing of China Telecom (Hong Kong) Ltd. in October 1997. But several of
Goldman's competitors, as well as Gitic creditors, question whether
Goldman's involvement with Guangdong Enterprises represents a conflict of
interest because Goldman is advising one arm of the Guangdong government
while working to safeguard its Ping An shares held by another arm. On the
other hand, Gitic and Guangdong Enterprises are separate legal entities.
Goldman couldn't be reached for comment on this issue.



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (40092)2/14/1999 9:53:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 
QTR
Mar-99  QTR
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Number of Brokers  14  15  18  12 
Year Ago EPS  -0.07  -0.11  -0.50  -0.81 
Report Date  4/27/1999  7/22/1999  1/26/2000  1/26/2001 
         
Current High Estimate  -0.15  -0.15  -0.52  0.10 
Current Low Estimate  -0.31  -0.29  -1.01  -0.60 
Standard Deviation  0.048  0.048  0.163  0.200 
         
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60-days ago Mean  -0.17  -0.15  -0.57  -0.06 
90-days ago Mean  -0.16  -0.15  -0.56  -0.23 
         
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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (40092)2/14/1999 10:48:00 PM
From: Dell-icious  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Yes - william - many persons owe you a thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Hope you don't get burned in this correction.